D&D 5E Stand Up & Rogue's Steady Aim

[Strider1973]

If I have understood it correctly, the Rogue can't use Steady Aim (from Tasha's) if she has moved in the same round. Using the RAW, what about if she uses half her movement to stand up from a prone position, remaining in the same "square"? At a first glance, I would say no, she can't use Steady Aim: what do you think? Many thanks!

 

[pukunui]

"You can use this bonus action only if you haven’t moved during this turn" - standing up uses half your movement and therefore counts as moving even if you don't leave your space. So no, you can't stand up and use Steady Aim on the same turn. You can use it while prone to negate the disadvantage. But if you want to actually gain advantage, you'd need to be standing up already.

 

[Horwath]

"You can use this bonus action only if you haven’t moved during this turn" - standing up uses half your movement and therefore counts as moving even if you don't leave your space. So no, you can't stand up and use Steady Aim on the same turn. You can use it while prone to negate the disadvantage. But if you want to actually gain advantage, you'd need to be standing up already.

this is correct, however, I would say that shooting a crossbow while proned does not suffer disadvantage, so you could "aim" while prone and still get advantage. Like any decent sniper.

 

[Charlaquin]

"You can use this bonus action only if you haven’t moved during this turn" - standing up uses half your movement and therefore counts as moving even if you don't leave your space.

Does it though? I think this matter is pretty ambiguous.

this is correct, however, I would say that shooting a crossbow while proned does not suffer disadvantage,

It does though. Disadvantage on attack rolls is one of the effects of the Prone condition.

 

[Leatherhead]

This is what the prone condition says:

A prone creature’s only movement option is to crawl, unless it stands up and thereby ends the condition.

And in the combat section:

To move while prone, you must crawl or use magic such as teleportation. Every foot of movement while crawling costs 1 extra foot. Crawling 1 foot in difficult terrain, therefore, costs 3 feet of movement.

So, standing up is not a movement option, and the only kind of movement you are capable of doing while prone is crawling or teleporting.

However, there is a mechanical hiccup here:
You can't stand up if your speed is 0, and using Steady Aim sets your speed to 0. However it only sets your speed to 0 after you use the bonus action. Which means you have to stand up and then aim.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

It does though. Disadvantage on attack rolls is one of the effects of the Prone condition.

But that disadvantage is cancelled due to the rule that a DM can always give advantage.
I think in a combat situation where everyone moves, shooting a crossbow from prone is impractical, but if youbtry to snipe someone, prone is ok.

 

[Charlaquin]

But that disadvantage is cancelled due to the rule that a DM can always give advantage.

I mean, sure, but advantage and disadvantage don’t stack, so at that point you’re getting a neutral roll no matter what, and there’s no longer any point in staying prone for Precise Aim…

 

[Paul Farquhar]

this is correct, however, I would say that shooting a crossbow while proned does not suffer disadvantage, so you could "aim" while prone and still get advantage. Like any decent sniper.

Agree, this seems to me one of the main reasons to use a crossbow - so you can aim and shoot whilst prone. If RAW contradicts common sense I would say go with common sense.

 

[MarkB]

Simple houserule: The disadvantage for firing a crossbow or firearm while prone doesn't apply if you are on higher ground than your target.

 

[Bolares]

It does though. Disadvantage on attack rolls is one of the effects of the Prone condition.

I think not giving disavantage while shooting prone with a crossbow would be a fair rulling. But I wouldn't aloow the character to reload while prone.