only if you ignore what everyone who disagrees with you has to sayAs stated already, your "proof and documentation" ignores fundamental aspects of the rules, particularly around how ability checks are resolved.
nobody and I mean nobody has taken that ability from the player.Where an attempt is being made to persuade, deceive, or intimidate a player character, the outcome cannot be uncertain because the player decides what the character does.
there are times there is uncertainty, you choose to rush past this with DM fiat, and that is fine. I can even understand how you read that. I just don't understand how you can read "THE ORC HAS +2 Intimidate, AND THAT MEAN THEY CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM LAUGHABUL TO DOWN RIGHT SCARY" and think that there is no uncertainty in any reading of it...If there's no uncertainty, there can be no ability check.
yes in game there is a scale he could roll a 1 (3 intimidate) he could roll a 20 (22 intimidate) I wonder if in your games you narrate that whole range?