TSR TSR3.5 Launches IndieGogo Campaign to "Stop" WotC

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those claims are). The IndieGoGo campaign was launched yesterday and has so far raised $675 (at the time...

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those claims are).

The IndieGoGo campaign was launched yesterday and has so far raised $675 (at the time of writing).

The action TSR seeks is a "Trademark Declaratory Judgement of Ownership" which is a court declaration about the status of something in dispute.

TSR has launched a campaign to stop Wizards of the Coast

Become a Champion of TSR and Support TSR’s campaign against Wizards of the Coast!

TSR is taking a stand against Wizards of the Coast (“WOTC”) and its wrongful bullying of TSR, our trademarks, and its public libeling and slander of all those who helped create TSR based Dungeons & Dragons and products.

Wizards of the Coast has continually bullied TSR regarding TSR’s legally owned Trademarks. Wizards of the Coast has refused to answer all of TSR's repeated requests that they show any proof of their claims. Wizards of the Coast has the vast resources behind them and is implying to bring them to bear down on TSR.


The new TSR suffered widespread pushback when it launched, which they blamed on WotC, claiming that they were under a "coordinated assault across various channels being mounted.... by [WotC]" The company announced itself earlier this year, having acquired the TSR trademark after the previous holder accidentally let it lapse. It was run by Ernie Gygax, Justin LaNasa, and Stephen Dinehart. After several weeks of controversy, the company split into two -- Wonderfilled (Stephen Dinehart), and TSR (Ernie Gygax and Justin LaNasa).


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The page also indicates an intention to "fight to have WotC's legacy product disclaimer removed" from older products (that's the disclaimer on the older books available on DMs Guild which indicates that those books are products of their time) by claiming that the disclaimer portrays the creators of those older products as "as supporting those alleged prejudices, stereotypes and bigotry, wrongfully claimed to be part of those products".


TSR will also Fight to Have the WOTC Legacy Disclaimer Removed

TSR is suing WOTC for Trademark Declaratory Judgement of Ownership . TSR will also pursue in the near future having WOTC remove the legacy content disclaimer placed on TSR based Dungeons & Dragons and other products, and retractions of any other libel and slander which alleges that racism and other heinous beliefs are incorporated into those products.

This disclaimer attempts to make a statement of fact argument, and therefore paints all of the writers, editors, artists and consumers of those products as supporting those alleged prejudices, stereotypes and bigotry, wrongfully claimed to be part of those products. This statement by Wizards of the Coast opens the possibility for the producers and players of these "Legacy Products" to face ridicule, and face the labeling as "bigots", "racists", "misogynists", and worse Cyber & Physical Attacks!

Wizards of the Coast legacy content disclaimer.

"We (Wizards) recognize that some of the legacy content available on this website does not reflect the values of the Dungeons & Dragons franchise today. Some older content may reflect ethnic, racial, and gender prejudice that were commonplace in American society at that time. These depictions were wrong then and are wrong today. This content is presented as it was originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed. Dungeons & Dragons teaches that diversity is a strength, and we strive to make our D&D products as welcoming and inclusive as possible. This part of our work will never end".


TSR3's Justin LaNasa spoke about the campaign in a YouTube video.


 

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Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
At this point, it's either that, or he's so woefully stupid it would be crippling. I don't think he's that dumb,

Are you sure?

From his website ....

Family is being attacked on so many levels it is import to bring back family in our community's above all else !

Yeah, that's really what he wrote. Look, we all make typos. But this guy ...


...this guy....

Oh, heck, here's some more ....

I am also a Author. Me and My daughter Mary wrote a children's book My Name is Cheezza Not Pizza, she gave me the idea to write a children's book to have a slice of Cheezza travel around the world seeing were vegetables origins are from.

I also served on the NC cooperative extension board Arboretum and I have fought for the citizens of New Hanover county with and illegal sales tax that was trying to be past. Also have fought property re-valuation all the way up to the state level and won.
I am a 32* Mason one level below the ranking of George Washington.


I ... it physically pains me. I certainly hope he's not responsible for spelling the tattoos at his parlor.
 


Sacrosanct

Legend
The problem with this logic is... WotC's lawyer will probably be more expensive than he will be given money to pay....
Oh sure. I never said he was smart. I just said he wasn't that dumb. Smart enough to try to emulate someone else's plan, dumb enough to not think it through or apply basic math.
 



Kannik

Hero
why they do not just make a retro-clone is just beyond me it is the easy option then be a grifter to get fans, even I a rather dumb person can concoct this have they not considered they less suicidal route?
I’d posit the reason is that it is not about a/the game. It is the larger "war" they think they are fighting. Putting out a game is "easy" -- well, no it's not easy, it takes a lot of work and skill and creativity and more work, as does any piece of art! So let's say it's "straightforward", but it doesn't megaphone their upset as much. It's an additional layer of racketeering: they posit something up front as their front, but in the back what’s going on is much different...
 


Sacrosanct

Legend
Yeah, that was my thought too. But the method here (filing for a copyright declaratory judgement) opens him up to so much liability that the tactic is stupid beyond belief - if WoTC decides to play hardball this could quite literally bankrupt him (not just the company, him personally - he's opened that door).
The only thing I can think of is that if that happens, he sees all these people "victims of the woke mob" raise hundreds of thousands of dollars in GoFund me (like the bakers here in Portland) so he thinks, or even hopes it does happen, so he can use GFM to get that kind of money for himself.

Which is probably a bad bet in itself, but look who we're talking about here.
 

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