D&D General I really LOVE Stomping Goblins

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Reynard

Legend
Don't confuse "non-hostile" for "non-evil". You can still be a LE kobold and decide it's better to work with potential murderhobos ín an attempt to bargain your life and the life of your dragon charge than to needlessly throw it away on a suicide attack.
I try not to use two different races for the same niche. if goblins are my cackling pyromaniac cannibal monstrosities, I use kobolds for the put upon forced to serve darkness people.
 

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Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
Don't confuse "non-hostile" for "non-evil". You can still be a LE kobold and decide it's better to work with potential murderhobos ín an attempt to bargain your life and the life of your dragon charge than to needlessly throw it away on a suicide attack.
They said there was a tribe of kobolds that was “way more nuanced,” so if they’re all evil, I think we must have different definitions of nuance.
 

Don't confuse "non-hostile" for "non-evil". You can still be a LE kobold and decide it's better to work with potential murderhobos ín an attempt to bargain your life and the life of your dragon charge than to needlessly throw it away on a suicide attack.
That's usually how I portray Lawful Evil. More cautious, willing to work with others long term if it meets their needs, less likely to complain. The Lawfulness tempers the Evilness.

As a DM, I play devils as much less likely to fight PCs. For them fighting is a fail-state in most interactions with mortals. They don't even always need to be looking to get someone's soul so long as they think they can corrupt more people in the long run by being an ally in the present.
 




CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
To me it feels like LE has a lot more room for nuance than CE for me. Kingpin feels like he has a lot more interesting than the chitauri, or Dr Doom vs. Carnage.
Agree. Forget Monsieur Thenardier, the real money in Les Miserables is Inspector Javert.
 

Sacrosanct

Legend
Hey, don't knock it. I'll sometimes get a couple spoonsful of my favorite jam (raspberry) and mix in a splash or two of my favorite wine (pinot) until it has a pourable consistency, then drizzle it over my favorite ice cream (vanilla).

'Vanilla is boring'? pff. You just gotta know how to houserule it.
I don't do wine, but I most assuredly put jam in my ice cream. Have for years. Get a good French vanilla, then add whatever jam I want (or better yet, during the season I put the raspberries fresh from the vine in with the ice cream)
 


Reynard

Legend
They said there was a tribe of kobolds that was “way more nuanced,” so if they’re all evil, I think we must have different definitions of nuance.
It seems like you are conflating a few things as it relates to evil humanoids. "Inherently evil" only indicates a lack of free will in the moral sphere. Those creatures can still be subtle and charismatic and personable and complex and cooperative. They can also be fiery Cuisinarts of death and dark hilarity.
 

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