D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

21 months Covid free locally is over. Up to 5 cases now.

SDHB reveals number of new cases in Dunedin, Queenstown and Southland

The Southern District Health Board has released a breakdown of Covid-19 cases across the South, with new cases in Queenstown, Gore, Dunedin and...

www.odt.co.nz

Even if they squash those ones there's more in the surrounding area and that's just the ones they know of.

Soon it's gonna be self managed isolation translation please stay at home.

 

[Horwath]

That's got to be confusing. Definitely a question for your doctor, not Joe Bob on the Internet.

problem is, that they are mostly doing guesswork also.

Here is my example:

had the antigen test back in april '21.
IgG count 167. Over 50 is considered positive contact with virus. No symptoms.
Went for the first shot in June '21. Asked the doctor at vaccination point, with the lab results in hand, is ok to get the shot 60 days after having somewhat positive result(some say that IgG count should be over 500 for immunity), doctor said, it's "most likely" not a problem.
luckily, there was no problem with my 2 doses, had only mild fever for 1 day after. 2nd shot, I was somewhat tired for 2 days. No biggie.

Now in January, 3 of my friends had Covid, positive PCR test, 2 days later I come down with SAME symptoms, PCR test negative. But as I was only one vaccinated out of 4 of us with 2 shots, I only had 1 day fever(38,8 C), they had for 3 days.

I ask my family doctor should I get a booster? It was due at late january/early february, she says that you need to wait 2-3 months after infection, but as you were negative it probably(again probably) OK. But, as false negatives are also happened in small cases in PCR test, that I should, just in case wait for a month or two.

I will probably go for antigen serum test again i a week or so, and depending on antibody count will decide about the 3rd shot.


TLDR: it's a new virus and new vaccines, and even doctors are not sure about what antibody count is sufficient protection, just that more is better. That's what I gathered from talking to few of them.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

That's got some similarities to my situation. Actual medical advice can be pretty vague. My employee (who was positive first for covid) was sick for two weeks, but the current isolation is only five days. When she called and asked her doctor if she should still stay home after her seventh or eighth day of being sick, she was told she could go back to work "If you want."

She was thinking "What does what I want have to do with it? Am I still contagious or not!?"

(She stayed home for fifteen days, IIR, in the end, because that was how long she was sick for).

 

[Horwath]

That's got some similarities to my situation. Actual medical advice can be pretty vague. My employee (who was positive first for covid) was sick for two weeks, but the current isolation is only five days. When she called and asked her doctor if she should still stay home after her seventh or eighth day of being sick, she was told she could go back to work "If you want."

She was thinking "What does what I want have to do with it? Am I still contagious or not!?"

(She stayed home for fifteen days, IIR, in the end, because that was how long she was sick for).

yeah, it's good idea to stay at home as long as you are sick.

you are probably contagious while you are still coughing from Covid.

In Croatia, isolation is 5 days if no symptoms, and 10 days if you have any. And some doctors say you should stay at home for a few days after last symptoms if they persist for more than 10 days.

also, for your question on getting 3rd shot after having Covid, only danger can be in over reacting of your immune system in some sort of auto-immune reaction. Most of them are pretty mild, but in very rare cases, they can get serious. That is why we get most vaccinations in more than one dose, so we do not over strain our immune systems.

 

[Zardnaar]

I don't think they know 100% how long Covid is contagious for.

We used a two week qurantine here still got through multiple times. That could involve human error though or undetected transmission in quarantine.

The tests aren't 108% reliable either and when you're dealing with thousands of people eventually the odds catch up with you.

 

[Horwath]

I don't think they know 100% how long Covid is contagious for.

We used a two week qurantine here still got through multiple times. That could involve human error though or undetected transmission in quarantine.

The tests aren't 108% reliable either and when you're dealing with thousands of people eventually the odds catch up with you.

currently, we "know" that you are contagious 1-3 days before getting any symptoms.

Now, if your immune system is good and you get no symptoms or only mild(that you confuse it for a cold or just being tired today) you become super carrier.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I have a feeling that blaring explicit gay music at them would be FAR more annoying to them. Perhaps…”Be My Valentine” by the deathcore band, BROJOB. (It’s even appropriate for the season!)

No, I cannot/will not post a video or links to it.

Aaand according to a post I just saw, the truckers were using a communications app and some counterprotesters figured that out and which channels they were on. Then their efforts at communicating with each other were thoroughly compromised. Some simply heckled the truckers. Others overwhelmed the app and those channels with the gay cowboy anthem “Ram Ranch” and sexually explicit word salad. Some of the counterprotesters even posed as moderators.

 

[Ryujin]

Aaand according to a post I just saw, the truckers were using a communications app and some counterprotesters figured that out and which channels they were on. Then their efforts at communicating with each other were thoroughly compromised. Some simply heckled the truckers. Others overwhelmed the app and those channels with the gay cowboy anthem “Ram Ranch” and sexually explicit word salad. Some of the counterprotesters even posed as moderators.

There's video of Ram Ranch doing this and actively following the protestors.

 

[Umbran]

problem is, that they are mostly doing guesswork also.

Their educated guesswork is generally superior to our uneducated guesswork.

I mean, unless you wanna go take ivermectin, or something.

Here is my example:

Alas, personal anecdotes are not data.

 

[Mezuka]

Apparently, the blockade in Coutts, Alberta will be lifted today by 9 am. Organizers now claim they were infiltrated by extremists with guns. Which polluted their protest. They also claim the Emergency Act has nothing to do with the decision.

I have my doubts. When the government gives itself the power to revoke your truck driver's licence for life and block your bank account that will have an impact on decisions you make.