D&D 5E Krynn's Free Feats: setting-specific or the future of the game?

[James Gasik]

3.5 broke most of my characters instead of making them more powerful.

My alchemist rogue literally couldn't stir things anymore because he didn't have spellcasting, to say nothing of my stealth bomber fly/haste sorcerer and anyone that used the stat buff spells for anything but combat.

Yeah the 3.5 update sure sounded like it was all upside, but there were a few things like this. I think we mainly switched, despite the nuisance of having to rebuy all the books, because the Ranger looked so much better...

 

[Ruin Explorer]

So do you guys just never multiclass?

Across all four groups I semi-regularly play 5E D&D with, there have been 2 multi-class characters. That's out of over 24 characters (looking on Beyond makes this v. easy lol).

So yeah it's not seemingly a particularly popular option. In 2E, approximately 60-75% of PCs were multi-class, looking at old character sheets and so on.

 

[James Gasik]

Across all four groups I semi-regularly play 5E D&D with, there have been 2 multi-class characters. That's out of over 24 characters (looking on Beyond makes this v. easy lol).

So yeah it's not seemingly a particularly popular option. In 2E, approximately 60-75% of PCs were multi-class, looking at old character sheets and so on.

I really like multiclassing in 5e, but choosing when makes it rough. A lot of times, I'm like "ok, I'll do it once I get my ASI. Oh but a second attack might be good. Ok, level 5. Oh man, I really want my level 7 subclass feature...and I might as well get that ASI at 8th..."

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I really like multiclassing in 5e, but choosing when makes it rough. A lot of times, I'm like "ok, I'll do it once I get my ASI. Oh but a second attack might be good. Ok, level 5. Oh man, I really want my level 7 subclass feature...and I might as well get that ASI at 8th..."

Yeah I think that plus most of the single classes being pretty well-designed and rewarding this time (they were in 4E as well note) there's just a lot less impetus for people to MC. Of the two in my groups, one is MC'd clearly for power (Sorcerer/Warlock or the other way around, I forget what), the other was an attempt to be goofy-but-effective but which sadly ended just being goofy because the player didn't quite get how Sneak Attack works (Rogue/Monk) - he was saved by the DM overruling the rules (right decision, imo) but it was a bit of a mess.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I really like multiclassing in 5e, but choosing when makes it rough. A lot of times, I'm like "ok, I'll do it once I get my ASI. Oh but a second attack might be good. Ok, level 5. Oh man, I really want my level 7 subclass feature...and I might as well get that ASI at 8th..."

yeah especially since you are trading height of power of depth of options...

in our 20+ level game I went 17 warlock levels before multi into sorcerer. in the game we knew 5th or 6th would be the max i multied at 2nd level (Barbarian 1 Bard 1... and no it was not optimal at all but let my pirate have a good AC with an open shirt)

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Yeah I think that plus most of the single classes being pretty well-designed and rewarding this time (they were in 4E as well note) there's just a lot less impetus for people to MC. Of the two in my groups, one is MC'd clearly for power (Sorcerer/Warlock or the other way around, I forget what), the other was an attempt to be goofy-but-effective but which sadly ended just being goofy because the player didn't quite get how Sneak Attack works (Rogue/Monk) - he was saved by the DM overruling the rules (right decision, imo) but it was a bit of a mess.

I miss the 4e multi class feats... I would love to pick up 1 or 2 dice of sneak attack, or a 2nd or 3rd level spell 1/day or smite

 

[James Gasik]

I miss the 4e multi class feats... I would love to pick up 1 or 2 dice of sneak attack, or a 2nd or 3rd level spell 1/day or smite

I had a lot of hybrid characters in 4e...even if I failed to find much synergy (like with my Bard/Wizard), having more options to work with was a lot of fun.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I had a lot of hybrid characters in 4e...even if I failed to find much synergy (like with my Bard/Wizard), having more options to work with was a lot of fun.

my first official game with the adventure league I played an eladrin swordmage that took multi class in wizard.

 

[Horwath]

So do you guys just never multiclass?

in my current tuesday night game between Multi class and people that took the stat increase nobody had any feats at 6th level (although come 7th 2 if them did)

we do, just after 5th level mostly.

My quickest multiclass was at 5th level, and that was rogue4 into fighter 1. Because rogue 5 is just meh.

I now play in 2 campaigns:
in 1st we have 5 characters of 6th level, no multiclass

in other 3 characters of 7th level: one 7th level sorcerer(me), level 6 wizard+level 1 fighter and level 5 barbarian+level 2 fighter

 

[Charlaquin]

Edition-neutral in the sense that they had stats for Next, 4E, and 3.5, sure.

And ability check difficulties were just written as “easy/medium/hard” instead of specific numbers. You could pretty much run them in any d20 system, if you were willing to search its monster manual for “close enough” stand-ins.

They have some good reasons not to repeat that approach in books like Strixhaven or MOTM.

True.