[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED

[JEB]

They can't "end things there", as from what I remember reading, their deal for the rights requires them to do a certain number of seasons. So Amazon cannot cancel after just one season.

Interesting, but I still doubt their response to a failure would be to shell out more cash to get the additional rights. Especially since there's no guarantee a more authentically Silmarillion-y approach would be any more successful.

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

That they can't use stuff in the Silmarillion gives me a squirmy feeling of nervousness about this series that wasn't there before. That being said, the appendices of The Return of the King does have a lot of the basic details, so maybe I'm worrying for no good reason.

“We have the rights solely to The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King, the appendices, and The Hobbit,” He said. “And that is it. We do not have the rights to The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, The History of Middle-earth, or any of those other books.”

“There’s a version of everything we need for the Second Age in the books we have the rights to,” McKay noted. “As long as we’re painting within those lines and not egregiously contradicting something we don’t have the rights to, there’s a lot of leeway and room to dramatize and tell some of the best stories that [Tolkien] ever came up with.”

 

[Zaukrie]

That they can't use stuff in the Silmarillion gives me a squirmy feeling of nervousness about this series that wasn't there before. That being said, the appendices of The Return of the King does have a lot of the basic details, so maybe I'm worrying for no good reason.

Why? I mean, it is a fictional story in a made up land. There is A LOT of space to do interesting things.

I'm 100% certain a huge subset of fans will hate this and be verbal like crazy. There will be another set that takes it as a story that takes place in a made up world and doesn't care how it meshes. I'm hoping the second group is massive, and we get years of good content.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

That they can't use stuff in the Silmarillion gives me a squirmy feeling of nervousness about this series that wasn't there before. That being said, the appendices of The Return of the King does have a lot of the basic details, so maybe I'm worrying for no good reason.

I am more bothered that they will be doing serious time compression for the 2nd Age. Stuff that happened hundreds or thousands of years apart will now happen within the lifespan of the main human characters. Oh, and I still greatly dislike the "not Hobbits" that will be in it, just so the show can have that connection to the movies.

 

[Dire Bare]

Why? I mean, it is a fictional story in a made up land. There is A LOT of space to do interesting things.

I'm 100% certain a huge subset of fans will hate this and be verbal like crazy. There will be another set that takes it as a story that takes place in a made up world and doesn't care how it meshes. I'm hoping the second group is massive, and we get years of good content.

This.

I find it irritating that the complete rights are separated between the original novels and the supporting books like the Silmarillion and massive volumes (oops, edit -- "The History of Middle-Earth"). But the reason behind that are both complicated and silly at the same time, IMO.

But regardless, all I want is a good story from Amazon. I don't need it to religiously adhere to the entire canon. Most book-to-movie adaptations change details anyway, this won't be different.

 

[ART!]

But regardless, all I want is a good story from Amazon. I don't need it to religiously adhere to the entire canon. Most book-to-movie adaptations change details anyway, this won't be different.

Same - and honestly, if it did adhere strictly to canon, then it would contradict itself, just like Tolkien's writings. Example: do dwarven women have beards? Yes, no, and there are no dwarf women - Tolkien said all those things.)

 

[Parmandur]

Interesting, but I still doubt their response to a failure would be to shell out more cash to get the additional rights. Especially since there's no guarantee a more authentically Silmarillion-y approach would be any more successful.

No, no, I meant their response to a runaway success would be to expand the rights.

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

Why? Simply because the largest and most detailed concentration of lore about the Second Age is off limits to them.

That being said, I'm still rooting for the show to be awesome.

Why? I mean, it is a fictional story in a made up land. There is A LOT of space to do interesting things.

I'm 100% certain a huge subset of fans will hate this and be verbal like crazy. There will be another set that takes it as a story that takes place in a made up world and doesn't care how it meshes. I'm hoping the second group is massive, and we get years of good content.

The time compression is fine by me - I can understand why they wouldn't want to have to churn through the human cast in the course of the series. Adding hobbits, likewise I understand why they're doing it, though I'm inclined to think of it less kindly than the former. But I get it, people think of hobbits when they think of Lord of the Rings.

I am more bothered that they will be doing serious time compression for the 2nd Age. Stuff that happened hundreds or thousands of years apart will now happen within the lifespan of the main human characters. Oh, and I still greatly dislike the "not Hobbits" that will be in it, just so the show can have that connection to the movies.

 

[MoonSong]

I'm in wait and see mode. Though I need to question why is this a thing again? It's like somebody got the rights to Lion King 1/2 without the rights to the Lion King and is filling in the blanks while compressing years/months of plot into a single afternoon. And is it in continuity with the PJ trilogy or not? Because if it is intended to be, then the PJ movies just got way darker/creepy...

I need to see when it drops.

 

[Dire Bare]

I'm in wait and see mode. Though I need to question why is this a thing again? It's like somebody got the rights to Lion King 1/2 without the rights to the Lion King and is filling in the blanks while compressing years/months of plot into a single afternoon. And is it in continuity with the PJ trilogy or not? Because if it is intended to be, then the PJ movies just got way darker/creepy...

I need to see when it drops.

There will likely be a similar visual style to the Peter Jackson films, but there is no connection between the two productions. It is unlikely the new series will be in continuity with the Jackson films . . . . but it's also likely only super Tolkien nerds will notice any discrepancies. Stephen Colbert will notice!