Spelljammer Dark Sun confirmed? Or, the mysterious case of the dissappearing Spelljammer article...

[Parmandur]

WotC could have made that decision on their own. Not every mechanic in 5e was subject to public approval prior to publish. They chose to do nothing because players couldn't agree, and so we have nothing.

They didn't do nothing: there are Psionic Spells, Subclasses, Races, amd Feats.

 

[Yaarel]

The Psion needs to be a separate class that uses the Warlock spellcasting chassis.

The Warlock is a popular class, with unusual casting mechanics. It so happens, its mechanics work well for psionic flavor, such as always on cantrips, invocations to augment effects, thematic spell selection, slot-9 spells, and so on. On the one hand, the Psion can benefit from the Warlocks success, such as feats and items that improve the spellcasting chassis. On the other hand, the Warlock can benefit from having an other class that uses its mechanics to gain more future support.

Flavorwise, the two classes have little in common. One is about innate power of ones own mind, the other is about the power of some external entity. But the mechanics are great. Probably, the Warlock chassis is unusual enough for the Psion to feel like a Not-Wizard.

 

[Mind of tempest]

From what WotC have said, it seems that both the psionic fans and the psionic haters are a significant minority now. Most of the players (who, it’s true, have never played D&D where psionics were a separate subsystem) are saying “that sounds cool, please just let me play it without re-inventing the wheel first.”

I hate spell slots but I can live with them I am no fool just bring me a working full psion I crave something different to wizards.

In 3E and 4E, WotC pumped out Classes left, right, and center. It didn't work out well. Making more is easy, making something people want is the challenge.

There isn't much evidence that I can see that more and more Classes excite most people.

given that most sub-classes are scraping up hyper niche ideas a new full class will make 5e players sit up as that is interesting.

Every single Edition has taken a radically different approach. Even 3.5 totally changed Pauonics, more than it did the Core Classes. There hasn't been any approach that has stuck, or been archetypal.

the basic themes are remarkably similar each time so it just needs mechanics which I assume wotc knows how to do.

 

[Mind of tempest]

They didn't do nothing: there are Psionic Spells, Subclasses, Races, amd Feats.

but not the core thing the class what use is wizard spells without a wizard.

 

[bedir than]

You'd think there would be far less acrimony about it if most of the fans didn't care, as you say.

The acrimony is because 1 group wants 1e psionics another wants 3e psionics another wants 5e spell slots another wants a warlock variant another wants "something original it's not that hard"

The people who wants psionics can't even agree on what they want.

 

[bedir than]

The Psion needs to be a separate class that uses the Warlock spellcasting chassis.

The Warlock is a popular class, with unusual casting mechanics. It so happens, its mechanics work well for psionic flavor, such as always on cantrips, invocations to augment effects, thematic spell selection, slot-9 spells, and so on. On the one hand, the Psion can benefit from the Warlocks success, such as feats and items that improve the spellcasting chassis. On the other hand, the Warlock can benefit from having an other class that uses its mechanics to gain more future support.

Flavorwise, the two classes have little in common. One is about innate power of ones own mind, the other is about the power of some external entity. But the mechanics are great. Probably, the Warlock chassis is unusual enough for the Psion to feel like a Not-Wizard.

Since the Warlock subclass choice is at level 1 a Psion just being a Warlock variant would be simple

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

The psionic powers aren't only for D&D but also to be used in any possible future no-D&D d20 WotC's new TTRPG, or in a setting with psionic instead magic.

Who would want to play with mystic psions? Fans of comics about mutants, superheroes, or readers of xianxia+xuanhuan.

Other point is the potential of the "martial adepts" from "Tome of Magic: Book of the nine Swords". Very interesting, but too complicated to be used for minibosses nPCs.

 

[Yaarel]

Since the Warlock subclass choice is at level 1 a Psion just being a Warlock variant would be simple

Mechanically yes.

Flavorwise, so no.

I think of it like the Druid, Wizard, Bard, Cleric, and Sorcerer are different classes using the same spellcasting chassis.

If the Warlock and the Psion are different classes using the same spellcasting chassis, that would be normal.

 

[Yaarel]

Flavorwise, the Warlock and the Sorcerer can merge into a single class. Its theme is the magical transformation of the body. Whether the Warlock makes a pact with a dragon that transforms the body, or the Warlock descends from a dragon, the magical body of the Warlock is a kind of spell focus, like a living magic wand. The bodily transformation might be fey, fiend, elemental, or whatever.

 

[grimslade]

You know who else isn't interested in psionics?
Most of the fans. That's why every attempt keeps getting ripped up after feedback

That is an interesting fiction. The reason they tried 3 different systems of psionic rules was because the fans DO want psionics, they just didn't want the ways WotC implemented. You don't have 3 UA's for psionics because no one wants it. You have 3 weak attempts with no iterative design before abandoning for the subclass route which also did not meet the 70% bar.