D&D General New WOTC racism allegations regarding Hadozee and Spelljammer

[Alzrius]

It's on the Forgotten Realms wiki, and the source is Stormwrack, a 3.5-era book from 2005. There's nothing at all like that in the recent Spelljammer release.

So it is, although according to the footnotes at least part of it is also from the first AD&D 2E Spelljammer Monstrous Compendium Appendix.

 

[Benjamin Olson]

Well when I was reading it the other day I did think it was surprisingly bold of them to not only touch a slavery narrative with a ten foot pole, but to give that narrative a white savior trope ending (the evil wizard's apprentices helped the Hadozee overthrow him).

I suspect the lesson taken here is not going to be "employ cultural consultants", but rather that they should create a big list of subjects to never create new lore remotely touching. The cultural consultants will be for revising old lore.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Well when I was reading it the other day I did think it was surprisingly bold of them to not only touch a slavery narrative with a ten foot pole, but to give that narrative a white savior trope ending (the evil wizard's apprentices helped the Hadozee overthrow him).

I suspect the lesson taken here is not going to be "employ cultural consultants", but rather that they should create a big list of subjects to never create new lore remotely touching. The cultural consultants will be for revising old lore.

I'm starting to think Paizo was right to announce that they're not going to include slavery in any form in any of their products anymore . . .

 

[Malmuria]

Niye that the really weird stuff in the second post is from a Wiki, not the new book. That's old lore, the Unhukan War comes up nowhere in this set.

Oh that's good at least. That would have been really egregious in a new publication. It's still really bad though; clearly they were working with compromised source material.

 

[Hussar]

What was wrong with the Yazirians from Star Frontiers? This is just face palmingly stupid.

 

[edosan]

Not sure who decided all that was okay, and I’m amazed that exactly zero reviews I’ve read of the box set have brought this up.

 

[Benjamin Olson]

I'm starting to think Paizo was right to announce that they're not going to include slavery in any form in any of their products anymore . . .

It's the only real solution, and also much cheaper than hiring experts just to massage your slavery narrative into something that will still as likely as not create a twitter storm-of-the-day, just a smaller one.

 

[Twiggly the Gnome]

No, some of what's in the OP is pulling from an old war Wiki. 5E SJ softened the situation...but kept way too much.

There's no mention of them being former slaves in the SJ Monsterous Compendium or Spacefarers Handbook. If it's old lore, I'd be from Stormwracked.

 

[Parmandur]

There's no mention of them being former slaves in the SJ Monsterous Compendium or Spacefarers Handbook. If it's old lore, I'd be from Stormwracked.

It's from the Wiki, at any rate. Fany Wikis have a history of getting...creative...sometimes.

 

[Laurefindel]

Cant see the art on my phone, but at the risk of sounding ignorant, what does « minstrelsy » has to do with cultural sensitivity?