D&D 5E (2024) One D&D Expert Classes Playtest Document Is Live

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[Bill Zebub]

I agree. No one enforces that restriction (in addition to donning the shield). And it's a waste of a bullet to include into the feat

We do.

 

[WarDriveWorley]

Fatigue/Exhaustion was always meaningless, because the first level was such a strong effect, that nothing besides Berserker ever ended up using the mechanic. Making it less punishing and not require a separate table look-up should make it possible for it to come up more.

Exhaustion was a big part of environmental/exploration mechanics. PC falls into frigid water? Exhaustion. PCs don't eat or drink enough? Exhaustion. Your table may not use these often, but they're still there and used. I know my players are always wary of exhaustion.

 

[ScuroNotte]

He wasn't saying individual people are phantoms, but someone having a problem might be a phantom in terms of the general user base experience.

He was calling people who questioned were phantoms. By stating that if "someone has a problem might be a phantom in terms of general use," are you stating that if a person goes against what is considered the norm is nonexistent (phantom)? There are many ways to get a point across but one must be cautious about how they word it. The state of the person you are responding to

 

[CleverNickName]

Exhaustion was a big part of environmental/exploration mechanics. PC falls into frigid water? Exhaustion. PCs don't eat or drink enough? Exhaustion. Your table may not use these often, but they're still there and used. I know my players are always wary of exhaustion.

I've also used it for smoke inhalation.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Yeah, I'm not sure I understand why they changed the Hunter. It was pretty good (on a pretty bad class, though). Now they have that weird Conjure Barrage features that's kinda bad for melee rangers, no?

I'd also like if they gave some not-overtly smite spells for the (downcastable) for the melee rangers, as an option,

The old feature was very bad too. There were so few cases where whirlwind actually was a choice, as it replaced all your attacks. So it worked terribly with extra attack and off hand attacks and even one of the hunter's own level 3 features.
A melee ranger can easily throw a dagger and conjure the cone.
The spell however is bad. It should generally be buffed to 4d8 at least.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

Oh. I just realized that Rogues no longer can sneak attack with a blade cantrip. Our first sample of a non-caster class, and they only got nerfs.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Go have a look at the exploration rules. Our DnD people can go for days without food, water or sleep with ease. And we have multiple easy spells (or even Outlander as a free background) that just... remove any need to interact with even those rules.

This is not true. They can go 3 days + con modifier without food, but need water every day. Traveling more than 8 hours a day also incorporates exhaustion, as does most diseases the PCs may be exposed to.

 

[TwoSix]

Exhaustion was a big part of environmental/exploration mechanics. PC falls into frigid water? Exhaustion. PCs don't eat or drink enough? Exhaustion. Your table may not use these often, but they're still there and used. I know my players are always wary of exhaustion.

And fortunately, all these uses are still there, as far as we know. Exhaustion is simply more granular now.

 

[ScuroNotte]

Or maybe they did but they have access to a lot more information than you do.

They do have access to more information. But when I see and read many alternative versions posted, it does show there are those who believe a revision is desired.

 

[Bill Zebub]

Blindsight now automatically reveals Hidden creatures... huh.

I’ve always played that it does anyway, so glad it’s codified.