D&D (2024) It goes to show you can't please everbody!

[Morrus]

I found this quite amusing--two threads which appeared right next to each other when I looked. Minigiant wants more armors, while Horwath wants fewer.

 

[aco175]

The sad thing is that I may have argued two different opinions in each thread.

 

[overgeeked]

That’s why we need an advanced and basic line of official D&D products.

 

[Olrox17]

That’s why we need an advanced and basic line of official D&D products.

Yes. Or actual modularity, which was the original design intent for 5e.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I found this quite amusing--two threads which appeared right next to each other when I looked. Minigiant wants more armors, while Horwath wants fewer.

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if there was EVER a picture to describe the D&D fanbase this is it. All of enworld can be summed up with it.

 

[overgeeked]

Yes. Or actual modularity, which was the original design intent for 5e.

Now's not the time to bring up WotC's track record of lying to fans during edition changes.

 

[SkidAce]

I found this quite amusing--two threads which appeared right next to each other when I looked. Minigiant wants more armors, while Horwath wants fewer.

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I wonder if one thread was created in reaction to the other...or if it was coincidence?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I had that same thought when I noticed those two threads!

EDIT: I honestly think that they're BOTH right. A mechanically simple table that outlines the standard AC benefits with a longer list of possible names would suit me. I'd go one further and make a list of optional "feat-like" powers that each named armour type could have, if you have a "masterwork" version (something to spend your $ on!)

 

[Mistwell]

I mean to be fair, the simplification isn't really asking for fewer armors - just more equity in how armor class bonuses are distributed.

The sad thing is that I may have argued two different opinions in each thread.

I can safely say I said Horwath had a bad idea and Minigiant had a good idea

I still don't even understand Horwath's argument. He's saying players already only have an illusion of choice and there should just be three fixed armors and you describe them how you want. When people point out there are in fact meaningful variations among the existing armors...he kinda handwaves that.

Minigiant is on to something and I think there should be even more meaningful variants aside from AC, price, weight, steath and movement. Let's get some resistances and vulnerabilities in there. Lets get some armor which is better and worse to cast spells in. Lets get bucklers and helmets. Juice this concept up even more!

 

[Minigiant]

To be fair Morrus, you can do my idea AND @Horwath's idea at the same time.

You can have more armors and simplified armors. That's basically 4e armor. Only 6 actual types of armor. But each type has 3-4 different versions (banded mail, chanimail, and braidmail are all the same AC).

It just wont happen before One D&D will be backward compatible and past armor values would have to be about the same.