WotC WotC needs an Elon Musk

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overgeeked

B/X Known World
That is a cop-out answer.
No, it’s true.
They can put forth new settings or expand on older ones - the Forgotten Realms is saturated with adventures within the Sword Coast.
And they are. There are two new settings coming out and they’ve literally just released yet another retread of a classic setting. The second one this year.
The Chult one is considered by many their best AP yet, why not touch on other areas beyond the Savage Frontier?
They likely will. When they get to it. They’re putting out, what…two modules per year.
What about the Points of Light setting?
Likely at the bottom of the pile if not in a vault never to be opened. Anything 4E is radioactive to WotC.
What about a new D&D setting altogether?
Beyond the two in the works?
What about an entire Tome dealing with Modularity - dials for low magic setting rules, rest variants, grittier systems, re-looking at inspiration and personality traits, spell points, theatre of mind aids, 1e dungeoneering, hit point capping based on size + con/str, adding weapon complexity, variant initiative systems, wound/crit tables based on damage source, synchronistic combat, skill manoeuvres, skill challenges in 5e, expansion on disease/poison/madness/corruption, stamina system...etc
Some of that’s already in the DMG. This would be what, a DMG 2? Where’s the player options? That’s D&D’s model now. Almost no book gets published without player options. There’s been what, two outside the core three that didn’t have PC options.
What about a Tome on High Level Play?
You mean that thing basically no one does? Sounds like a money maker.
 

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Likely at the bottom of the pile if not in a vault never to be opened. Anything 4E is radioactive to WotC.
That seems like a mistake.
Beyond the two in the works?
If it is another Radiant Citadel, no one is interested. They have been picking loser settings with some poor art. IMO

EDIT: There were some magic settings they did initially in like mini-guides they released that would have been far more interesting. And the art, if I'm recalling correctly, was rather impressive.
Some of that’s already in the DMG. This would be what, a DMG 2? Where’s the player options? That’s D&D’s model now. Almost no book gets published without player options. There’s been what, two outside the core three that didn’t have PC options.
Skill maneuvers are player options
Dials for Low-Level Magic could provide some revised spells and spell lists.
Dials for Low-Level Magic could provide revised class features.
Synchronistic combat could have player options
Weapon complexity is all player options.
...etc
You mean that thing basically no one does? Sounds like a money maker.
No one does because the support is not there and has not been there for most of the game's history.
Granted it is a lot more work than the simple-minded folks at WotC going ah I guess Tiamat is Takhisis.
 


glass

(he, him)
Regarding the "catering to casual fans/catering to hardcore fans" dichotomy: I think it is a bit of a red herring, in that is presupposes that all casual fans care about the same things, and those things are different from what all hardcore fans care about. When the difference between them is not what they care about but how much they care.

A cursory glance at the forums indicates that what hardcore fans want is all over the map, and I see no reason to assume that casual fans are any different in that respect.
 

Libertad

Hero

350 AC, The Capital City of Neraka. The losses of the Silvanesti Campaign dealt a tremendous blow to the morale of the Dragonarmies. After the inevitable purges came in search of who to blame, a Lemish merchant by the name Elan of Muskheim found himself in the unlikely position of Blue Dragon Highlord. It didn’t take long for him to be summoned for a personal audience with Emperor Ariakas after word caught on of his revolutionary new policies.

“Our forces are massing on the Solamnic border,” Ariakas said, his tone slow and deliberate, the weight of an entire continent on his shoulders. “And yet the Blue Dragonarmy is hundreds of miles to the east, far behind schedule.”

Elan, still not entirely adjusted to the weighty scale mail of a Highlord, merely beamed with the confidence of Zivilyn’s surety.

“Ansalon is stuck in the old ways,” Elan began, “still thinking with backwards concepts such as supply lines and soft power. To save funds I cut down on quartermasters and entrusted logistics to an elite team of Black Robe wizards who can teleport our soldiers across vast distances, instantly!”

Emperor Ariakas creased his hands, leaning back in his chair. Clearly Elan had gotten his attention. “Ah, the teleport spell,” he began. “Magic only a few Wizards of High Sorcery can master. Tell me Highlord Muskheim, how do you suppose you’ll use a few wizards to teleport 38 siege engines, 24 blue dragons, 5,257 soldiers, and 2,785 camp followers to Kalaman’s outskirts within the month? Especially when even that mightiest of spells can only transport 9 people at a time, and even archmages can only muster the summonings three times a day at most?”

Ariakas leaned forward. “And more importantly, how much did it cost to hire the Order of Black Robes for this endeavor?”

Elan spoke quickly. Too quickly, to give the aura of confidence rather than show doubt or fear. He knew what the impression of uncertainty and weakness brought about during the Purges.

“44 billion steel pieces, My Lord!”

For once the Emperor was at a loss for words. He merely sat at his Vallenwood desk for several long silent seconds before pulling signed documents out of a drawer.

“It says here that the Zhakar ambassador has cut off all ties with us after you accused him of pedophilia. Honestly I don’t care about whatever personal spats you have with our primary weapons dealers, but I’m hoping that the next words which leave your mouth are truly revolutionary tactics that will all but guarantee our conquest of Solamnia to make up for this…expense.”

Elan spoke again as soon as the last word escaped the Emperor’s lips; he was already thinking of his answer before Ariakas finished his sentence. There could be no showing of weakness, no doubt as to his grand vision. That was what spelled his predecessor’s demise, and forced the White Dragonarmy into occupying a polar backwater.

“To make up for lost funds, I signed an order allowing for the sale of Blue Chainmail on the open market!” Highlord Muskheim answered. “They’re already a status symbol in the occupied territories, and have been ordered in bulk by just about every noble house in eastern Ansalon!”

It was at this point the Emperor's imposing veneer cracked, showing a side of him he never shown even in front of his closest advisors. “You are to tell me,” Ariakas began, his voice rising, “that you are selling the exclusive uniform of Dragonarmy Officers...

His grip tightened on the Vallenwood desk, its solid frame beginning to show cracks.

“...to any spy, any merchant looking to get out of taxes…"

He was shouting now.

"...to any two-bit idiot who happened to luck into wealth…!

This had never happened before in front of another soldier. Shouts of genuine anger, and not the feigned passion given at his speeches in the Colosseum of Sanction. The Blue Dragon Highlord tried to speak, but he never got the opportunity. Like the flames of a fresh spark Ariakas rose from his seat, a flash of cape closing the distance between himself and the Highlord.

“...and will surely be the first to die in a real war!”

...

356 AC, the War of the Lance has ended. Nobody knew what happened to Highlord Muskheim since his replacement by Kitiara the Blue Lady. He would go down as one of Ansalon’s unlikeliest unsung heroes, an enigma to scholars on both sides of the War of the Lance. Was he an opportunist who let his greed be his downfall? A true fighter of freedom sabotaging the Dragonarmies from within? Or perhaps just a man who was in the wrong place at the right time?

That is an answer only the gods know.
 
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Lanefan

Victoria Rules
Likely at the bottom of the pile if not in a vault never to be opened. Anything 4E is radioactive to WotC.
A setting of any kind should be, in theory, edition-agnostic.

They could take the Nentir Vale/points of light chassis, dress it up with new names for everything, run it out as the Great New Generic Setting, and folks would lap it up.
Some of that’s already in the DMG. This would be what, a DMG 2? Where’s the player options?
Nowhere. This would be, in effect, a "DM options" book; not required to run the game but (in theory) useful and helpful to those who do.
You mean that thing basically no one does? Sounds like a money maker.
Not just high level play but higher-level play: focus on the 10-20 range but have a chapter or two dealing with what happens after 20th level.
 

S'mon

Legend
WotC needs an Elon Musk, I know I'll get dumped on for saying it, but when 50% roughly that the D&D studio works on gets tossed in the trash and the rest tends to be shades of poorly done when the D&D studio doesn't have adult supervision (freelancers Keith, Matt, or George for examples of adult supervision).

We should be getting products equal to the 5e Southland Kickstarter, instead we are getting setting products without the settings. This is absurd.

New visionary leadership is needed.

And as big as the problems with D&D are, the issues with MtG dwarf it with a major consumer revolt going on, and multiple WotC studios that have been around for years and yet have yet to produce any products at all.

Maybe this is finally the time for the activist investors to make their next more or at least close to that time because it appears they have been vindicated.

Part of WotC's problem is they are too focused on casuals, but it's the hardcore fans that create the buzz that draws in the casuals in the first place (this is shown by the Fandom survey/research that basically fandoms in 4 grades from the most hardcore fans to the most casual casuals). Their current approach is to alienate hardcore fans to court casuals, and that is a problem because it's the hardcore fans the build the foundation the gets you the casuals.

It's what made the MCU (and ignoring that truth is killing the MCU) for example.
If the argument is that WoTC need some kind of 'kick up the paints', I could buy that. IMO they've been coasting for a long time. I think it's shameful just how weak some of their products are. eg Fizban's Treasury of Dragons was a huge disappointment for me - and more importantly for my son, a massive fan of dragons. We have a 3PP dragon book from DM's Guild that is a hundred times better and clearly had far more work go into it. So much WoTC product is just lazy. I guess because they can. If Kobold Press published stuff as weak as WoTC's typical output, they'd go bust.

Edit: Of course the 5e PHB MM & DMG* (and XGTE) are still good, and continue to sell well as evergreen products supported by a solid 3PP ecosystem. ONE D&D does pose some threat to that though; it's not impossible they could muck up the ONE D&D PHB/MM/DMG trinity.

*The 5e DMG is a bit arguable I guess, I'd say it has a lot of good material that is easy to overlook due to the weird presentation order, with very advanced stuff right at the beginning, and the meat & potatoes buried inside. Anyway it's the 5e PHB that drove the success of the edition.
 
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S'mon

Legend
They could take the Nentir Vale/points of light chassis, dress it up with new names for everything, run it out as the Great New Generic Setting, and folks would lap it up.

I always felt that Nentir Vale was a great sandbox setting (with a lot of Middle Earth/Arnor influence) tied to a system that does not support sandbox play. It could be a great 5e setting, and probably have wider appeal than most of WoTC's recent efforts. Not sure I trust them to do an adequate job though; they just don't seem to be putting in much effort compared to the better 3PP companies.
 

Libertad

Hero
If the argument is that WoTC need some kind of 'kick up the paints', I could buy that. IMO they've been coasting for a long time. I think it's shameful just how weak some of their products are. eg Fizban's Treasury of Dragons was a huge disappointment for me - and more importantly for my son, a massive fan of dragons. We have a 3PP dragon book from DM's Guild that is a hundred times better and clearly had far more work go into it. So much WoTC product is just lazy. I guess because they can. If Kobold Press published stuff as weak as WoTC's typical output, they'd go bust.

Edit: Of course the 5e PHB MM & DMG* (and XGTE) are still good, and continue to sell well as evergreen products supported by a solid 3PP ecosystem. ONE D&D does pose some threat to that though; it's not impossible they could muck up the ONE D&D PHB/MM/DMG trinity.

*The 5e DMG is a bit arguable I guess, I'd say it has a lot of good material that is easy to overlook due to the weird presentation order, with very advanced stuff right at the beginning, and the meat & potatoes buried inside. Anyway it's the 5e PHB that drove the success of the edition.

Asking out of curiosity, what's the name of this product?
 

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