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[Zardnaar]

I'm not saying that anything currently is unplayable. I'm saying that taken to it's logical extreme, @Micah Sweet's statement of "setting continuity is more important than playability", he would prefer that the game be literally impossible to play than a single setting he likes get retconned/rebooted.

Think you're taking him to literally.

I would prefer wonky and authentic than reinagined which usually means watered down, bland,inferior.

This applies to anything old. Eberron yes, Kobra Kai yes, latest Bond movies yes.

New Spelljammer, various reboots and hack jobs no.

You can have quality plus faithful adaption.

If they change what attracted you to the property in the first place it's understandable.

Badly done you don't appeal to the new crowd or the old one.

 

[Scribe]

I'm not saying that anything currently is unplayable. I'm saying that taken to it's logical extreme, @Micah Sweet's statement of "setting continuity is more important than playability", he would prefer that the game be literally impossible to play than a single setting he likes get retconned/rebooted.

Taken to the logical extreme, sure, but how many books do you think we will see for Dragonlance, D&D setting book or adventure, over the next 10 years?

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Taken to the logical extreme, sure, but how many books do you think we will see for Dragonlance, D&D setting book or adventure, over the next 10 years?

One or two. Don't see how that's relevant, though.

 

[Scribe]

One or two. Don't see how that's relevant, though.

No? You dont see how the risk of a 'logical extreme' is mitigated when the build up you fear, is...almost certainly not going to happen?

As Wizards told us, anything pre-5e, and its likely 'pre-MotM' at this point with the removal of Volo/MToF, is no longer relevant canon.

Dragonlance is now going to be in a time capsule, for all intents and purposes, and when Planescape is reprinted, thats going to be it until I'm over 50.

The release cycle is slow. The build of up of what you worry about in terms of 'unwieldy settings' simply will not materialize.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I'm not saying that anything currently is unplayable. I'm saying that taken to it's logical extreme, @Micah Sweet's statement of "setting continuity is more important than playability", he would prefer that the game be literally impossible to play than a single setting he likes get retconned/rebooted.

I don't recall taking my argument to the logical extreme. That leap was all your own, and I don't appreciate my preferences being referred to as "stupid".

 

[AnotherGuy]

I'm not saying that anything currently is unplayable. I'm saying that taken to it's logical extreme, @Micah Sweet's statement of "setting continuity is more important than playability", he would prefer that the game be literally impossible to play than a single setting he likes get retconned/rebooted.

My favourite setting is Mystara. Given what I think of the design team at WotC I do not want them to touch that setting. EVER!

However, IF, they had to I would like them to follow what the fan base has done, which I think is pretty remarkable.
(i) Gazetteers for new areas.
(ii) Expanding on lore (which may or may not include mechanics), without changing it. For instance
Traladaran customs and traditions. Darokinian Craft Guilds. Prince Morphail's mortal years. The lost Secret Craft of the Magic School of Glantri. Common Hin Sayings. Ethengarian Horse Breeds. Ka's Influence in the Known World, Stone Giant enclave of the Altan Tepes...etc
(iii) What If/Alternate Scenarios.

That way the base Gazetteer remains every-green the same way the Core rulebooks do while expansion in lore is possible without changing the fundamentals of the setting.

 

[Zardnaar]

My favourite setting is Mystara. Given what I think of the design team at WotC I do not want them to touch that setting. EVER!

However, IF, they had to I would like them to follow what the fan base has done, which I think is pretty remarkable.
(i) Gazetteers for new areas.
(ii) Expanding on lore (which may or may not include mechanics), without changing it. For instance
Traladaran customs and traditions. Darokinian Craft Guilds. Prince Morphail's mortal years. The lost Secret Craft of the Magic School of Glantri. Common Hin Sayings. Ethengarian Horse Breeds. Ka's Influence in the Known World...etc
(iii) What If/Alternate Scenarios.

That way the base Gazetteer remains every-green the same way the Core rulebooks do while expansion in lore is possible without changing the fundamentals of the setting.

I don't think they could do Mystara these days there's a lot of tripwires.

A redone isle of dread or smaller area could be done.

 

[AnotherGuy]

I don't think they could do Mystara these days there's a lot of tripwires.

Thankfully. We booby-trapped it well.

 

[Malmuria]

My favourite setting is Mystara. Given what I think of the design team at WotC I do not want them to touch that setting. EVER!

However, IF, they had to I would like them to follow what the fan base has done, which I think is pretty remarkable.
(i) Gazetteers for new areas.
(ii) Expanding on lore (which may or may not include mechanics), without changing it. For instance
Traladaran customs and traditions. Darokinian Craft Guilds. Prince Morphail's mortal years. The lost Secret Craft of the Magic School of Glantri. Common Hin Sayings. Ethengarian Horse Breeds. Ka's Influence in the Known World...etc
(iii) What If/Alternate Scenarios.

That way the base Gazetteer remains every-green the same way the Core rulebooks do while expansion in lore is possible without changing the fundamentals of the setting.

what’s the selling point of this update? Why should non-mystara fans consider it over all the other setting options? What about the opportunity cost of making this vs a different product?

 

[AnotherGuy]

what’s the selling point of this update? Why should non-mystara fans consider it over all the other setting options? What about the opportunity cost of making this vs a different product?

These are all fair questions.
Think of Xanathar's? You needed the Core rule books to make that a worthwhile product.

A Mystaran lore book, would provide
Lore that could be inputted into any other setting. I mean just think of some of the examples I gave Stone Giant enclave of the Altan Tepes, Darokinian Craft Guilds, Lost Secret Craft of the GS of Magic, Ethengarian Horse Breeds...etc
There would be mechanical weight included in some of the topics covered allowing for playable options for PCs, new equipment/monsters/ familiars/magic/enchanted items/new materials...etc
It does not take much imagination really to make this product both worthwhile for Mystara fans as well as non-Mystara fans.

The same way I may purchase a book I only intend to steal ideas from but not necessarily use the setting because I prefer my own...

Regarding your opportunity cost question - if they make a decent book that can have universal appeal I would bank their costs would be covered. Think of it as a fatter Dungeon or Dragon Magazine. You really could do such a book with any setting.