Dragonlance Dragonlance Philosophy thread

[GMforPowergamers]

Then why haven't they changed it already? They just had a perfect opportunity.

because these arguments keep coming up and some fans refuse to except change

 

[Paul Farquhar]

by the book (D&D 5e) he could not be Lawful Good and still do these things... either there needs to be acarve out exception for DL alignment or he can't be good.

Sure he can, and we have been over this before.

Creatures can be counted on to do the right thing as expected by society.

- 5e PHB

Plenty of societies and major religions teach that collective judgment is good.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I am not going any further with this... killing a lot of innocent people can be shades of grey needed... it can be utilitarian, it can not be GOOD as described by D&D 5e.
I wish to discus the game not some real world hypothetical.

I thought this was the philosophy thread.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I see a difference between changing a story and not changing it,

right, so there it is... you care about what is published and so do I... so neither of us can make the "it shouldn't matter to you just do it your way for your game" argument without being hypocritical.

in regards to publishing, and obviously in this case I value keeping it the same (which is admittedly less work) over changing an existing story.

I don't care what is or isn't less work.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I don't see the legal right to do something as being enough to do it, and obviously we disagree on the secondary motivations.

I don't see how 2 voices that were involved 30 years ago matter to me.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

But, regardless of what they said in their marketing copy, they didn't really rebuild anything.

sure they did. I'm glad you are happy with it. If people didn't keep argueing on here about what was, I don't see the new one as that bad. but these arguments keep poping up.

Nothing they did in the new book contradicts the original narrative. Instead, it allows for the table to contradict it in their own game, which is IMO a much better solution.

After all, weren't most of you more concerned about play than setting anyway?

yes

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Sure he can, and we have been over this before.

- 5e PHB

Plenty of societies and major religions teach that collective judgment is good.

now show me a societie in 5e that excepts mass murder or mind control as good and is out of game labled as good.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Plenty of societies and major religions teach that collective judgment is good.

So you would be cool with someone dropping a big rock on your neighborhood because one guy was a tax cheat?

 

[Scribe]

now show me a societie in 5e that excepts mass murder or mind control as good and is out of game labled as good.

This implies that there is only one possible view of what is good.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

This may seem like an irrelevant aside, but, speaking as an Atheist, I don't think it does the atheist cause any good for people to attack the teachings of religions with the same level of virulence and fanaticism as the worst kind of fundamentalist.