D&D (2024) One D&D Permanently Removes The Term 'Race'

In line with many other tabletop roleplaying games, such as Pathfinder or Level Up, One D&D is removing the term 'race'. Where Pathfinder uses 'Ancestry' and Level Up uses 'Heritage', One D&D will be using 'Species'. https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1393-moving-on-from-race-in-one-d-d In a blog post, WotC announced that "We have made the decision to move on from using the term "race"...

In line with many other tabletop roleplaying games, such as Pathfinder or Level Up, One D&D is removing the term 'race'. Where Pathfinder uses 'Ancestry' and Level Up uses 'Heritage', One D&D will be using 'Species'.


In a blog post, WotC announced that "We have made the decision to move on from using the term "race" everywhere in One D&D, and we do not intend to return to that term."
 

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Would love to have seen a transcript of WotC's discussion on the word change and then compare it to Enworld's discussion, where we discuss the possibility of monstrosities (centaurs) fornicating with animals (horses) and the evolution of fantastical species in crystal spheres not tampered by the divine. Goodness.
 

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Cadence

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I dunno, I feel like that’s one case where picking all the traits of one “species” and none of the other is pretty fitting. Either you have an extra set of limbs you can use for manipulating objects, or one you can use for flight. No mixing and matching. 😜

You might feel like it's trouble.
Others might find it an amazing roleplaying opportunity.

What we need to be careful of is avoiding it being an amazing min-max opportunity.

That's why I suggest including Half-elf and Half-orc as example Custom Lineages in the PHB. while sidebarring other custom lineage ideas to the DMG, and then providing guidance there for all the other PHB lineages. And then a splatbook (Mordenkainen Presents Again: Monsters AND Peoples of the Multiverse?) can include a chapter on hybridising all the other lineages included in that reference tome, while also adding in popular new lineages that have shown up in splatbooks since its predecessor went to copy-editing in 2021, like say, Gem Dragonborn or Ordening Goliath (assuming that's actually a stealth playtest option for Fizban Presents: Glory of the Giants and not actually put here for the 2024 PHB, as much as I'd love it to be and would love the Firbolg to be rolled into it as a variant).

I was going to blame the whole 1/2 thing in D&D on Tolkien, but then just remembered John Carter and Dejah Thoris. (And it would get rid of a bunch of Glen Cook things).

Would restricting it to humanoids hurt too badly in exchange for avoiding wondering about Thri-Kreen/Halflings? (So, Thri-kreen are out; as are centaur being Fey).
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
I was going to blame the whole 1/2 thing in D&D on Tolkien, but then just remembered John Carter and Dejah Thoris. (And it would get rid of a bunch of Glen Cook things).

Would restricting it to humanoids hurt too badly in exchange for avoiding wondering about Thri-Kreen/Halflings? (So, Thri-kreen are out; as are centaur being Fey).
I wouldn’t worry about it, personally. Just include a custom lineage option and direct players who want some exotic combination to use it to express their lineage however they like.
 

Marandahir

Crown-Forester (he/him)
Species in a sense that applies pretty well to this situation goes back to at least 1561 ("Species of Homo"). The more specifically general biological sense goes to at least 1608 (used with Genus in a zoological sense about crocodiles).

These dates are more modern than many D&D things, but older than I thought they would be. The spyglass (on the D&D equipment list) looks like it goes back only to 1608.

Avoiding work and wikipediaing, it looks like Aristotle used genos and eidos that were translated as genus and species (even if they don't map exactly)? It looks like eidos also sometimes means "form". (Does "form" seem odd, or does that work?)
Aristotle used Eidos because he was referring to what modern biologists would call phenotypical distinctions rather than genotypical ones.

Much of Linnean Taxonomy was based on this phenotypical idea of relations, so for example, dolphins were considered Fish by Aristotle and other early taxonomists, as opposed to Mammals (though really, Dolphins are as much Fish as Sharks and Coelacanths and Koi and Kitties and Humans are - all of us Vertebrates are all just different specialised forms of Fish, or else Fish is a meaningless paraphyletic term).

Form is odd, therefore, because it's really eidologically (not specifically) referring to appearance. And by WotC's current playtest standards, my Half-elf can be Species: Human and Eidos: Human-Elf Hybrid, looking quite a bit like an Elf but not entirely.

I've been diving too much into weeds in this discussion, but I think Form would actually make this all worse because of the Drow problem: Drow is now a Subform of Elf, and thus you're instantly thinking how Drow look different from High Elves, and thus relating appearance to mechanics on a superficial level.

I want to be able to play silver-to-purple-skinned and silver-to-green haired Night Elves that are mechanically Drow but more similar to the heroic nature-focused but clearly Dark Elf from Warcraft, say. That makes sense. But if I'm told that the Drow Form, and thus the Drow Mechanics, are specifically tied to Dark Skin, and to Sunlight Sensitivity and Superior Darkvision, now I'm thinking, well maybe my Night Elf might as well be its own lineage and I create Pallid Elves and publish it in the Explorer's Guild to Wildemount when I could have just said that in my Exandria setting, some Drow are below-ground baddies that worship Lolth, while other Drow are Nocturnal Sehanine Moonbow-worshipers. And it's not just Matt Mercer doing that; 4e had Dusk Elves as mechanically a sub-sub-lineage of Wood Elf yet narratively Drow that abandoned Lolth for Sehanine. And these Dusk Elves I believe date back to earlier edition ideas too, since they have connections with the Mists of Ravenloft. But the 4e Nerath and 5e Exandria narratives would have been perfect for recasting Drow - much the way Keith Baker recast Drow as Jungle warriors from the shadowy forests of Xen'drik from the start with Eberron way back when it debuted in 3.5e.

What I mean to say by this is: don't use a FORM of jargon that highlights characters that deviate from racist white Euroamerican standards of beauty as being somehow different and potentially lesser than their white versions. We end up with a term that's functioning in similar problematic ways to what the 2014 PHB already has.

And finally, NO term WotC picks, nor any term picked by the player base even if at odds with WotC's jargon, will alone fix the racism issues in D&D. This is a multifaceted problem that demands a multifaceted approach to resolving. But the term choice is AN important factor.

tldr: I don't think Form is the right choice. How about Ancestry?
 

Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Supporter
this woke stuff kills me. are we so sensitive that a word like race is really that bad. so call it species, heritage, ethnicity...i could argue woke crap about all of those as well. this generation of wokeness is ridiculous.
Mod Note:

We COULD argue, but your choice of rhetoric betrays your ossification. You will not be participating in this thread any longer.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
Aristotle used Eidos because he was referring to what modern biologists would call phenotypical distinctions rather than genotypical ones.

Much of Linnean Taxonomy was based on this phenotypical idea of relations, so for example, dolphins were considered Fish by Aristotle and other early taxonomists, as opposed to Mammals (though really, Dolphins are as much Fish as Sharks and Coelacanths and Koi and Kitties and Humans are - all of us Vertebrates are all just different specialised forms of Fish, or else Fish is a meaningless paraphyletic term).
All categories are socially constructed, and say more about the values of the culture constructing them than about the things being categorized.
 

Amrûnril

Adventurer
Taxonomy has been rejecting what they teach us in grade school about Domain-Kingdom-Phylum-Class-Order-Family-Genus-Species for decades now. Cladistics is where it's at.

If we accurately represented Birds in the old Linnean binomial nomenclature, the ENTIRETY of the Bird Class would be a single Species of Dinosaur. So we either have to accept that the system is biologically bunk and can't represent actual proportional distances of relationship between thingys and we're just decided some thingys look different enough that we're starting over at a higher level of the system with them, like Birds, or else we need to throw it out and replace with visual diagrams of endlessly nested and cross-pollinating lineages.

Taxonomic classifications above species are biologically meaningful in that they denote a group of organisms where each member is more closely related to each other member than to anything outside the group. What they don't have, is any sort of consistent scale. So a family can be as small as Hominidae, which includes only one extant species a handful of ape species, or as large as Poaceae, which includes every species of grass anywhere in the world.
 
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Cadence

Legend
Supporter
Taxonomic classifications above species are biologically meaningful in that they denote a group of organisms where each member is more closely related to each other member than to anything outside the group. What they don't have, is any sort of consistent scale. So a family can range in size from Hominidae, which includes only one extant species, to Poaceae, which includes every species of grass anywhere in the world.

I kind of wonder how much current taxonomy would change if the slate were wiped clean and the mammalogists were assigned birds to do and the ornithologoists were assigned mammals...
 

Clint_L

Hero
Taxonomic classifications above species are biologically meaningful in that they denote a group of organisms where each member is more closely related to each other member than to anything outside the group. What they don't have, is any sort of consistent scale. So a family can range in size from Hominidae, which includes only one extant species, to Poaceae, which includes every species of grass anywhere in the world.
I take your point. Worth pointing out that Hominidae family has many extant species, though. Us, for one. But also varieties of gorillas, chimps, and orangutans. Yup, we are classified as apes (great apes, specifically, which is nice. I like being known as "great').
 

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