It is time to forgive WOTC and get back onboard.

[Parmandur]

And yet corporations spend all sorts of time, money and energy building brand trust. What dopes!

Well, aure,because parasocial relationships are valuable to them. Doesn't make thst healthy.

 

[Velderan]

I wonder if people suggesting WotC's intention to revoke the OGL 1.0a caused no harm actually think publishers who had material under the OGL 1.0a were holding fire sales to liquidate inventory that they were afraid they might not be able to legally sell were doing that just because?

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I wonder if people suggesting WotC's intention to revoke the OGL 1.0a caused no harm actually think publishers who had material under the OGL 1.0a were holding fire sales to liquidate inventory that they were afraid they might not be able to legally sell were doing that just because?

Fun fact. Some of them made a lot of money doing so. Free advertisement.

 

[Parmandur]

I wonder if people suggesting WotC's intention to revoke the OGL 1.0a caused no harm actually think publishers who had material under the OGL 1.0a were holding fire sales to liquidate inventory that they were afraid they might not be able to legally sell were doing that just because?

They caused a fear of harm, but frankly I doubt thst was intentional. Doing that intentionwould require more competence or understanding than was demonstrated.

 

[Velderan]

Fun fact. Some of them made a lot of money doing so. Free advertisement.

Less fun fact: some were doing it because WotC did a horrible job of communicating anything and some were afraid they'd end up with a bunch of inventory they were not going to be able to sell without risking a call from WotC's lawyers.

They caused a fear of harm, but frankly I doubt thst was intentional. Doing that intentionwould require more competence or understanding than was demonstrated.

And that fear of harm caused actual harm to some companies product plans and finances.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Less fun fact: some were doing it because WotC did a horrible job of communicating anything and some were afraid they'd end up with a bunch of inventory they were not going to be able to sell without risking a call from WotC's lawyers.

It was quite clear before their sale, that they had a bit of time to clear their inventory at least. So they use the opportunity and sell their stock that has been sitting around their shelves for quite a while. IIRC Morrus stated that he sold more LevelUp in 2 weeks than in the last 6 month.
Business is aout seizing opportunities. A ctitical fumble of your opposition usually means cash for you, if you do it right.

 

[Parmandur]

And that fear of harm caused actual harm to some companies product plans and finances.

Yeah, not great. Neither here nor there for me, personally, and innthebend they got even more than they had before.

 

[Velderan]

It was quite clear before their sale, that they had a bit of time to clear their inventory at least. So they use the opportunity and sell their stock that has been sitting around their shelves for quite a while. IIRC Morrus stated that he sold more LevelUp in 2 weeks than in the last 6 month.

It wasn't quite clear at all, the leaks people were relying on for info due to the horrible job WotC did communicating anything were suggesting a mid-January start date for OGL 1.1 at one point.

Good for @Morrus. That sounds snarky, but really good for him and I hope those sales translate into people continuing to use his system and get away from WotC. I have no idea how much inventory they currently have, but there's a very real chance if WotC had stuck to their original timeline he may have been stuck with material he couldn't sell without risking legal action. It was a gamble that fortunately paid off, but some publishers weren't in the same position and needed to hold a fire sale to unload everything they could just in case.

Do you honestly think Morrus wouldn't have mentioned the very real concern he had about being able to pay his mortgage if there wasn't a very real threat to his business in this? Really? lol

 

[Velderan]

Yeah, not great. Neither here nor there for me, personally, and innthebend they got even more than they had before.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

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Do you honestly think Morrus wouldn't have mentioned the very real concern he had about being able to pay his mortgage if there wasn't a very real threat to his business in this?

Snipping dismissive naughty word.

Never said that, quite the contrary. Of course he had a few stressful weeks. But we as fans stood behind him, cancelled subscriptions, told in the survey how unpleased we were with the direction. But in the end, 3pp producers took the oportunity and even made money out of it. This is what doing business in general often is about. Steering through unclear waters. Sometimes you can just react to what happens, sometimes you can have some influence.

PS
I also don't think he overreacted and specificall sold his inventory out at a big discount.