D&D General Kobold Press Going Down a Dark Road

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

Why are you deliberately ignoring what I'm saying to focus on D&D books only?

So $120 x 12 = $1,440 per year vs. $200 in books per year. That gives our teenager $1,240 to spend on non-D&D stuff. What am I missing. It seems you are saying teens don’t have the money for D&D while also proving the do?!

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

Millions x 0 = 0. People playing the basic free game aren't earning WotC a penny, unless they start spending disposable income on other things from WotC.

Except I don’t know a single person you used the free basic rules. Now a lot use the DMs books, but I’ve never seen the free basic rules used.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

The planet where people here are claiming kids get $30 a week as an allowance. I've never heard of it that high, but there are multiple articles out there that put it at $15-$30 a week for a 15 year old, though they generally have to do chores to get it.

You're also talking about employed teens. We're discussing the vast majority of teens who don't work and rely on allowance.

A lot of teens work in the US, to many IMO. That being said, mine didn’t have jobs (mostly, my youngest got a job as a research at the State University by accident basically) in HS. Nor did we give them an allowance. We did however basically buy them anything they wanted (except video games).

My point is there are millions of teens (in the US alone) and a lot of them have access to more disposable income (through numerous sources) than one would think. D&D really only needs to capture a faction of that.

And the most important thing is that those teens may become “whales” in the future. I spend a lot more on D&D now then when I was a teen ( even if it was my parents money), but I wouldn’t have spent any of it if I wasn’t a D&D player when I was a teen.

 

[teitan]

I can’t name a single DCC artist, but then again most of the D&D artist I know are from 1e!

Then you can name a couple DCC artists! Erol Otus and Jim Holloway.

 

[teitan]

A lot of teens work in the US, to many IMO. That being said, mine didn’t have jobs (mostly, my youngest got a job as a research at the State University by accident basically) in HS. Nor did we give them an allowance. We did however basically buy them anything they wanted (except video games).

My point is there are millions of teens (in the US alone) and a lot of them have access to more disposable income (through numerous sources) than one would think. D&D really only needs to capture a faction of that.

And the most important thing is that those teens may become “whales” in the future. I spend a lot more on D&D now then when I was a teen ( even if it was my parents money), but I wouldn’t have spent any of it if I wasn’t a D&D player when I was a teen.

There are a lot less books coming out now than when we were kids too! Multiple releases a month at 15-20 bucks is about $34-46 now. I know I bought at least 1 a month and almost every new major boxed set that came out. They were 30 in about 92 and that is the equivalent of $70 in today’s cash.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

Then you can name a couple DCC artists! Erol Otus and Jim Holloway.

Yikes - I can’t stand Erol’s style. Maybe that is why I stay away from DCC! I do t know Jim, but I assume I have seen his work.

 

[teitan]

Yikes - I can’t stand Erol’s style. Maybe that is why I stay away from DCC! I do t know Jim, but I assume I have seen his work.

What blasphemy is this???

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

Also @Maxperson, there are approximately 42 million D&D age adolescents in the US alone. I realize the age range isn’t the same, but that is roughly $1.2 billion dollars of disposable income by your numbers. Just 10% is almost equivalent to the entire WotC D&D revenue.

The teenage market is simply one that cannot be ignored.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

What blasphemy is this???

I know, I know. His work just never felt like D&D to me. I can’t help it! I was much more an Elmore BW from the BECMI series fan

 

[teitan]

I know, I know. His work just never felt like D&D to me. I can’t help it! I was much more an Elmore BW from the BECMI series fan

I get it. I like Elmore too. There is just something about Erol that says “D&D” to me though. Moreso than the rest. I also tend to identify with Moorcock, Vance and Ashton-Smith for my fantasy than with Tolkien (unless it’s his own trippy art) and other fantasy artists of the high fantasy variety. Though I do love me some Angus McBride artwork. More Bakshi trippy than Disney clean (not disneyfied, Black Cauldron is dark).