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I still have trouble seeing how they are saying us old folk don’t matter. Obviously they want to bring in the new blood, but as a member of the older crowd, nothing they have been doing feels like it was designed to alienate me. I’ve enjoyed the new books they release (I’ve skipped some, but that’s more due to my groaning bookshelves), and I’m looking forward to seeing how the upgrades shake out rule-wise.

What exactly are they doing that is so antithetical to those of us over 50?
 

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I still have trouble seeing how they are saying us old folk don’t matter. Obviously they want to bring in the new blood, but as a member of the older crowd, nothing they have been doing feels like it was designed to alienate me. I’ve enjoyed the new books they release (I’ve skipped some, but that’s more due to my groaning bookshelves), and I’m looking forward to seeing how the upgrades shake out rule-wise.

What exactly are they doing that is so antithetical to those of us over 50?
Paying attention to or servicing new players in any way is a direct and personal attack on older players.
 

I still have trouble seeing how they are saying us old folk don’t matter. Obviously they want to bring in the new blood, but as a member of the older crowd, nothing they have been doing feels like it was designed to alienate me. I’ve enjoyed the new books they release (I’ve skipped some, but that’s more due to my groaning bookshelves), and I’m looking forward to seeing how the upgrades shake out rule-wise.

What exactly are they doing that is so antithetical to those of us over 50?
They're not actively doing anything to alienate older players; that would be ridiculous. I don't see that they're making any attempt to keep them, however, as @Red Castle suggested they should be doing in addition to enticing new players.
 

They're not actively doing anything to alienate older players; that would be ridiculous. I don't see that they're making any attempt to keep them, however, as @Red Castle suggested they should be doing in addition to enticing new players.
But, what should they be doing other than what they are doing? Putting out new rule books that people are buying. Maybe I’m just a gullible consuming sheep, but I certainly am not feeling ignored.

Okay, maybe the characters in the artwork should be using more hairspray, but other than that…:)
 



Making changes to the game based on what they think young gamers and potential gamers like.
Just because they are changes you don’t like (and I’m guessing you are self-identifying as old here), doesn’t mean that other old folk don’t like them. Or that they are targeted at young people. I mean, what rule changes have they proposed that have an age restriction on them?
 

Just because they are changes you don’t like (and I’m guessing you are self-identifying as old here), doesn’t mean that other old folk don’t like them. Or that they are targeted at young people. I mean, what rule changes have they proposed that have an age restriction on them?
This isn't about restrictions. And the fact that you're happy with what they're putting out now doesn't make your opinion any more true than mine. Most folks just don't like to hear people criticize things they like. I know I don't.
 


You keep acting like your thoughts and feelings are evidence as well. They aren’t. WOTC’s market research through DDB and sales figures are. Less than 10% of people are going to go to a con or play in a store. I don’t play in a store and I only started going to gaming cons after the pandemic and I have been playing for 34 years. Your argument about physical book sales are really confusing too because what drove 3.x era books sales and Pathfinder book sales? Both were largely driven by younger players as well that are now in their 30s and early 40s and we were paying out far more per month for books and stuff then than we are now? So I’m confused why this is hard to grasp. Back then it was 2 or three 30-50 dollar books a month and quarterly mini releases, plus extras, the D20 boom of which some were extremely popular as well. I had two players in high school who bought every book as it came out, especially the more expensive Forgotten Realms books when we got one every other month. WOtC has put out their survey and data results pointing to an age range and you’re just disagreeing with it because you don’t see it in your local store and conventions? Maybe because they’re, like us as teens, looking forward to when they can go to Gencon/Origins/Pax etc and choosing to buy their… 2 or 3 sourcebooks a year and their DM buying their adventure.
It doesn't matter how you slice it, 40% < 60% and that 60% spends more money than the 40% because it has a lot more to spend. If you're going to be teen only like your argument above implies, then you end up with 25% < 75%. It's impossible for that 25% of 17 and under players to be outspending the other 75%.
 

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