D&D (2024) Jeremy Crawford: “We are releasing new editions of the books”

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but fixing all of those but saying they still are viable options is pretty weird... just look at the OTHER response I got
one man’s fix is another’s unwanted change. If you consider them a fix, use them. If you prefer the original, no one is forcing you to switch by pulling the edition rug out from under you

That is the whole point of maintaining compatibility. Either version can be used in any 2014 and 2024 adventure

WotC keeps on repeating that 2014 classes are not obsolete and can be mixed with the 2024 classes. Which is what 4e essentials did.
 

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edit: did the player options of 2e like the name said just give new options?
Correct. It didn't replace the 2e core rules altogether—it required the existing core rules to function. It contained multiple options to replace different aspects of the game (some good, some not so much) like combat, which spells were in what cleric spheres and such, but you still needed the core rules.
 


Correct. It didn't replace the 2e core rules altogether—it required the existing core rules to function. It contained multiple options to replace different aspects of the game (some good, some not so much) like combat, which spells were in what cleric spheres and such, but you still needed the core rules.
emphasis on it replaced PHB rules with new options, sometimes large sections (combat), it did not just add to them. It was not standalone however, so other parts of the PHB were still needed, it did not replace the entire book
 

but fixing all of those but saying they still are viable options is pretty weird... just look at the OTHER response I got
I see no conflict. Here is the new version. If you don't like a change, the old version can be used instead (or occasionally in tandem). You can use the 2014 warlock if you prefer it. The rules will still work, with some occasional elbow grease to cover the gaps.

People are getting hung up on All or Nothing. WotC WANTS you too adopt the new versions wholeheartedly, but they have made it so that if you prefer the older version, it's still compatible. You can use the 14 warlock in a way you cannot use the 4e warlord. That is a choice for individual tables to make. Some will adopt the new, some will stick with the old, and some will hybrid between. For their purposes, future books will reference the 24 PHB, but they can be used with the 14 if the DM wants to make them work.

They are not claiming you can use your 2014 PHB and have 100% perfect compatibility. What people keep insisting on is explicit confirmation that the 2014 PHB will be always available, always compatible, and they can bring it to any 5e game and it will never be contradicted, which was never going to happen.
 

I would love the new warlock to be it's own 1/2 arcane caster class and still have the old warlock with pact magic with both supported.
I'm not opposed to this as long as the recovery isn't technically part of a short rest. That's proven not to work for pacing.

Let's say they get half-casting for lower-level problem-solving magic. However their Pact Magic at level 3 gives two Pact Magic spell slots that scale (old-school style) for "boomability." (You don't get more than 2 pact slots because you now have normal slots as well.) Additionally there can be a ten minute communion ritual where the Warlock solicits/begs their patron for a recharge of Pact Magic. Sounds thematic to me. Perhaps after the first use of the ritual, Pact Magic recovery requires a sacrifice of some kind? Maybe 1 HD per spell slot? Or a X GP value offering? (First one is free, little addict. Gotta pay for the rest.)

I could see some sort of recharge on rolling initative, but I like the paton communion better.
 

how about the complaint I either want a break that fixes or a continuation that allows the old to be used not a continuation that fixes and negates the old...
So do you want a 6e that reinvents the wheel again and renders the last 10 years of books obsolete or do you want to 5e to remain static while they add more patches to fix issues via different sourcebooks so that the most recent version of the game is scattered among six different books?
 

one man’s fix is another’s unwanted change. If you consider them a fix, use them. If you prefer the original, no one is forcing you to switch by pulling the edition rug out from under you
my argument is that rug is being pulled even if the word edition isn't being used... there will be a new warlock, and as such it will be update to the new "not edition" or get left behind the same way a 6e warlock would.
New content will be for the new 2024 warlock not the 2014 warlock.
That is the whole point of maintaining compatibility. Either version can be used in any 2014 and 2024 adventure
the only part of that is that you can use either PHB with the adventures... you can't use both phb and both will not be supported going forward

WotC keeps on repeating that 2014 classes are not obsolete and can be mixed with the 2024 classes. Which is what 4e essentials did.
except what happens when new spells come out in the first post 2024 splat? will they support, you know what I think this deserves it's own thread.
 



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