D&D (2024) New One D&D Playtest Document: 77 Pages, 7 Classes, & More!

There's a brand new playtest document for the new (version/edition/update) of Dungeons of Dragons available for download! This one is an enormous 77 pages and includes classes, spells, feats, and weapons.

Unearthed Arcana Playtest

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In this new Unearthed Arcana document for the 2024 Core Rulebooks, we explore material designed for the next version of the Player’s Handbook. This playtest document presents updated rules on seven classes: Bard, Cleric, Druid, Monk, Paladin, Ranger, and Rogue. This document also presents multiple subclasses for each of those classes, new Spells, revisions to existing Spells and Spell Lists, and several revised Feats. You will also find an updated rules glossary that supercedes the glossary of any previous playtest document.

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[Neonchameleon]

For the record, non-magical healing prior to 4e was more realistic than anything since. And the hit point issue will never be resolved to anyone's satisfaction, so I see no point in using it for either side.

For the record "more realistic than anything [D&D] since" still means "less realistic than any other tabletop RPG I recall playing except Toon".

 

[Remathilis]

I expect rewordings (particularly, I expect the Sage Advise Compendium to inform how things are framed and presented this go around), but in terms of actual rules changes...if they aren't considering it now, I doubt they will introduce anything new, and anything they dropped...is dropped.

Oh good. Another 10 years of guidance spam...

[emoji849]

Remind me the point of revising the PHB again?

 

[Zardnaar]

Oh good. Another 10 years of guidance spam...

[emoji849]

Remind me the point of revising the PHB again?

Money. I woukdnt xall it a cash grab 5E is coming up ten years old.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I expect rewordings (particularly, I expect the Sage Advise Compendium to inform how things are framed and presented this go around), but in terms of actual rules changes...if they aren't considering it now, I doubt they will introduce anything new, and anything they dropped...is dropped.

Shrug. I mean, we're pretty much on the same page. I just don't believe that we can assume anything to that degree of certainty.

 

[Neonchameleon]

I mean, okay, if you're going to say things which are obviously false on a very basic level, then I think we can dismiss your claims entirely.

Obviously 1D&D's changes are hugely larger than those 3.5E made. It's not possible to argue otherwise. There are more changes to classes, more changes to races, more changes to spells, more changes to basic rules, more changes to Feats, everything.

So when you claim "It doesn't rise to 3.5E", you're just saying something isn't true, isn't credible, isn't worthy of any respect as an opinion, and is obviously early-stage edition-warring.

To say that "it's not possible to argue otherwise" is simply, starkly wrong.

3.5 changed core systems. It changed the skill system. It changed what spell resistance and spell immunity meant. It changed what damage resistance meant. It changed the shape of a horse FFS. And, crucially, 3.5 was written to not be backwards compatible. There might or might not be more total changes (I suspect at the end of the day there will be fewer just because 3.X was so overrun by spells) - but the targeting of the core changes is fundamentally different. 3.5 used the "stick" method of "you can't actually use the two together without continual splicing" while D&Done is trying to use the carrot of "look how much nicer, more fun, and more polished these are".

Which you think changed more depends on which part of the system you are looking at.

 

[Parmandur]

Oh good. Another 10 years of guidance spam...

[emoji849]

Remind me the point of revising the PHB again?

Money. And that has to do with pleasing customers, whatever that looks like.

 

[TwoSix]

Oh, god. Are we really going to relitigate this?

Seriously. It doesn’t matter one iota what the hell you call it.

What matters is normalizing using all the published material together at the table, and not viewing the new book as a reset.

 

[Neonchameleon]

Uh-huh, but that's not the equivalent document to the "core rules" update, is it?

That's the 8-page "core rules" booklet.

The 40-page booklet contains all the changes to the:

PHB
DMG
MM

40 pages for everything, absolutely everything in 3.5E, and a lot of it is wasted space.

Um... which are you saying the 40 page booklet is? Because the 40 page booklet I'm reading is the Accessory Update - and that doesn't contain all the changes to the PHB, DMG, and MM. Instead it

The free D&D v.3.5 Accessory Update booklet provides you with a summary of the changes to the core rulebooks and the information you need to bring the Monster Manual II, Fiend Folio, Deities and Demigods, Epic Level Handbook, and the Manual of the Planes fully up to v.3.5 of the game.​

It's just all the other files run end to end.

If you want an actual list of changes, here's one courtesy of the Wayback Machine

I guarantee you will not be able to fit the changes to the

PHB
DMG
MM

In 1D&D into less than 40 pages, absolutely everything, in a similar format.

Indeed. But unless I've missed a file WotC didn't do that at all for the sweeping changes in 3.5.

 

[Micah Sweet]

For the record "more realistic than anything [D&D] since" still means "less realistic than any other tabletop RPG I recall playing except Toon".

If you say so.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Oh good. Another 10 years of guidance spam...

[emoji849]

Remind me the point of revising the PHB again?

More money in WotC's pockets.