Planescape Planescape Pre-order Page Shows Off The Books!

You can now pre-order Planescape: Adventures in the Multiverse from D&D Beyond. The set comes out on October 17th.

Scroll down through the comments to see more various peeks at the books!

Planescape: Adventures in the Multiverse

An adventure setting spanning the infinite realities of the world’s greatest roleplaying game

www.dndbeyond.com

• Discover 2 new backgrounds, the Gate Warden & the Planar Philosopher, to build planar characters in the D&D Beyond character builder
• Channel 7 otherworldly feats, new intriguing magic spells & more powered by planar energies
• Explore 12 new ascendant factions, each with distinct cosmic ideologies
• Face over 50 unusual creatures including planar incarnates, hierarch modrons, and time dragons in the Encounter Builder
• Journey across the Outlands in an adventure for characters levels 3-10 and 17
• Adds adventure hooks, encounter tables, maps of Sigil and the Outlands & more to your game

This 3 books set comprises:

• Sigil and the Outlands: a setting book full of planar character options with details on the fantastic City of Doors, descriptions of the Outlands, the gate-towns that lead to the Outer planes, and more
• Turn of the Fortunes Wheel: an adventure set in Sigil and the Outlands designed for character levels 3-10 with a jump to level 17
• Morte’s Planar Parade: Follow Morte as he presents over 50 inhabitants of the Outer Plane, including incarnates, hierarch modrons, time dragons, and more with their stats and descriptions

 

[Maxperson]

I think Spelljammer was ok. But was hurt by how short it was. I like the ships, but did not need over half the setting book devoted to them.

Planescape is both longer and has no ships, so the problems are vanishing.

Hah! Ships weren't the only problem with the Spelljammer setting book. Races, subclasses, feats, etc. are not setting. They are things that go inside of setting(where you play). Ship combat rules are not setting. The only setting we got in the 64 page setting book were 2 pages on the astral sea and like 6 pages on the rock of bral. 8 pages out of 64. 8 pages of setting.

 

[Maxperson]

it could, but I am not sure it should…

And that has been canon since at least 1e, if not before. There were multiple origin stories among the races and they couldn't all be true.

I have no problem with that, not sure why everything needs an answer for you

Me: "You can have hard established canon or they can put out multiple possible interpretations for something as part of canon like they've done before."
You: "..."not sure why everything needs an answer for you"
Me: " "

 

[mamba]

And that has been canon since at least 1e, if not before. There were multiple origin stories among the races and they couldn't all be true.

then I am not sure why you even replied in the first place, as I did not say anything you were apparently not ok with since 1e already

Me: "You can have hard established canon or they can put out multiple possible interpretations for something as part of canon like they've done before."
You: "..."not sure why everything needs an answer for you"
Me: " "

That exchange never happened like that, my actual reply to that was

sounds like that is what they are doing with the ‘dragons believe X, but giants believe Y’

 

[Henadic Theologian]

the 2024 books will cost $60, that is their new price for books. Planescape is a boxed set of three books, that is why it has a higher price, just like SJ cost more than a book

How much I wonder will the 2024 core slipcase cost?

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Hah! Ships weren't the only problem with the Spelljammer setting book. Races, subclasses, feats, etc. are not setting. They are things that go inside of setting(where you play). Ship combat rules are not setting. The only setting we got in the 64 page setting book were 2 pages on the astral sea and like 6 pages on the rock of bral. 8 pages out of 64. 8 pages of setting.

The one upside to Planescape vs Spelljammer is it seems like it'll have a solid setting at least, with descent page counts for Sigil/Factions and the Outlands with a better map.

There was tastes of some interesting ideas in Spelljammer, but like the SCAG not enough follow through, details. Divine Domains in the Astral Sea seemed interesting, but they mentioned one and did nothing with it.

The only good thing about Spelljammer was was the art, the races, and the Spelljamming ship maps, and some of the monsters (I ever do a Fiendlock if my own, I want a Killer Space Clown Patron).

Just looking at the double sided map, makes Planescape feel like a more complete setting. I mean damn, Spelljammer didn't even explore Realmspace.

I'd just treat the Spelljammer set as an extension of Placescape setting & set.

 

[Maxperson]

then I am not sure why you even replied in the first place, as I did not say anything you were apparently not ok with since 1e already

Because WotC got lazy and declared nothing canon. Elminster is now not canon. The next FR product can literally say, "Elminster never existed. A group of adventurers went into the Underdark and wiped out a colony of myconids and ground them up into dust which they put into the food of every living thing on Toril, causing the largest mass hallucination in history(at least until the next product changes that!)."

That exchange never happened like that, my actual reply to that was

It did. Something doesn't have to happen in a single post for such an exchange to exist. I said that canon can include unknowns with multiple options. You then in another post said "...not sure why everything needs an answer for you" which is directly contradictory to what I said, prompting a facepalm.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Because WotC got lazy and declared nothing canon. Elminster is now not canon. The next FR product can literally say, "Elminster never existed. A group of adventurers went into the Underdark and wiped out a colony of myconids and ground them up into dust which they put into the food of every living thing on Toril, causing the largest mass hallucination in history(at least until the next product changes that!)."

It did. Something doesn't have to happen in a single post for such an exchange to exist. I said that canon can include unknowns with multiple options. You then in another post said "...not sure why everything needs an answer for you" which is directly contradictory to what I said, prompting a facepalm.

Except the contract with Ed Greenwood says they can't do that, its why they went from Jeremy's nothing is canon to Perkin's everything its own canon.

WotC has some talented people, but damn do they need better leadership.

 

[Parmandur]

Commissioning the art makes sense, something I hadn't considered. But still IMO not every book needs alternate covers, or even be a hardback. When I saw the MSRP I definitely got sticker shock for a minute.

That's fair: it is a 20% increase over Spelljammer, which is the same percentage as the $50 > $60 single hardcover increase. My FLGS gives a 10% preorder discount, which feels worth it for the store edition art.

It's also less the commissioning of the arr, and more the physical cost of binding three books instead of one

 

[Henadic Theologian]

That's fair: it is a 20% increase over Spelljammer, which is the same percentage as the $50 > $60 single hardcover increase. My FLGS gives a 10% preorder discount, which feels worth it for the store edition art.

It's also less the commissioning of the arr, and more the physical cost of binding three books instead of one

And all the extra card board for covers and dm screen (which thankfully is gorgeous).

Still say for that price the double sided map should have been cloth.

 

[Parmandur]

How much I wonder will the 2024 core slipcase cost?

Well, we already know there won't be one next year, but when it does come the MSRP will probably be ~$204 ($169.95 is the current MSRP for the core rules gift set, plus 20%).