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[payn]

This admission in high school cost me any chance I might have had with a cute red headed girl. She played the bass. She adored Monty Python. I've alreay paid the price.

You cant imagine the price you avoided. My ex is a red head I can attest to their soulless nature.

 

[MGibster]

How we remember the 1990s- Flannel, Docs, and Grunge.

How the 90s actually happened- Michael Bolton selling records.

We're like that a bout the 1960s too. We see a Vietnam movie and want to hear "Fortunate Son" by Creedance Clearwater Revival but in actuality you were more likely to hear soldiers playing "Okie from Muskogee" by Merle Haggard. In 1968, "Fortunate Son" peaked at #3 on the billboard charts, but Paul Mauriat's "Love is Blue" was #1 for five weeks.

I present to you the sound of the 60s!

 

[MGibster]

::quietly raises Goth hand:: We were there too...

Yeah, but you were in that dark corner nobody ever went to.

In 1990 my father was driving us to school one morning when he saw a goth student. "Jesus Christ! Someone needs to grab that girl and pump some blood into her."

 

[Reynard]

Yeah, but you were in that dark corner nobody ever went to.

Hey

In 1990 my father was driving us to school one morning when he saw a goth student. "Jesus Christ! Someone needs to grab that girl and pump some blood into her."

Lol.

I was not a Goth terribly long, but you can't argue with the club fashion....

 

[Willie the Duck]

It was a good song, but I don’t know that I’d label it “the most quintessentially 90s song”.

Thing is…I’m not sure I could say ANY song is “the most quintessentially 90s song”.

<this is a statement of opinion>
No one song can be "the most quintessentially <era> song," because the eras are defined (in peoples' heads) by the multitude within it. The closest I think you can get is "the most of-its'-era song" -- as in one which could not be mistaken for coming out in another decade. Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up would not have come out (sounding like it did) prior to the 80s and by '92-93 would have sounded dated. I don't know that any of the songs so-far mentioned for the 90s have that same quality (although I'm open to suggestions on that front).

Grunge was still enormous though. Problem is people only remember grunge and not pop or hip hop which also has their own success that decade. I was into metal and for us it was a weird and slightly barren, though experimental, period

The 90s also had Ska reach new heights, and revivals for jam bands (Phish, Dave Matthews Band, Widespread Panic, The Why Store), blues acts (Kid Johnny Lang, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, lots of Stevie Ray Vaughan remembrance), and New Orleans influenced bands (The Subdudes, Aaron Neville solo career). Grunge gets remembered because it came of age in the 90s, not because it was the only thing there.

Tiramisu ice cream cake.

Ice cream pizza > regular pizza.

Now, combine these concepts and...

 

[Thomas Shey]

I think it would be silly to suggest that no wargames had RPG-ish aspects before OD&D.

I think I'd be hard-pressed to think of any which had players playing individual figures with multiple players. There absolutely were some post-OD&D, but its hard with those to figure out whether they were trying to fish in some of the same market (while not trying to be RPGs, per se).

 

[Reynard]

I think I'd be hard-pressed to think of any which had players playing individual figures with multiple players. There absolutely were some post-OD&D, but its hard with those to figure out whether they were trying to fish in some of the same market (while not trying to be RPGs, per se).

Gygax and Arneson got the idea from games they had played prior, or even just heard of. For example.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Hey

Lol.

I was not a Goth terribly long, but you can't argue with the club fashion....

Its probably what my wife and I would have leaned into if we were A) Of a slightly different age, and B) cooler by nature.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Gygax and Arneson got the idea from games they had played prior, or even just heard of. For example.

If there was one place I'd have expected to see it before them, it'd have been dueling games; I just was not aware of any at the time (all the ones I knew of were later).

 

[Reynard]

If there was one place I'd have expected to see it before them, it'd have been dueling games; I just was not aware of any at the time (all the ones I knew of were later).

The point is they existed. They weren't doing something so unique no one else had thought of it first. As with almost all "new" expressions, RPGs were built on a lot of foundational work by others.