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[Emberashh]

I think it was pretty clear that Justin was trying to get at trashing 4e.

i don't believe whatever motivations he had undermines that he was touching on something important in game design.

After all, hes not the first nor the only person whose come to the conclusion that 4e is a tactical action-minis game first and RPG second (if at all).

I think theres still enough vestigial RPG in 4e to say that that assessment isn't really accurate, but I think the vestigial nature of those elements is still problematic.

 

[Cadence]

I think it was pretty clear that Justin was trying to get at trashing 4e.

Trashing things one doesn't like and acting like that isn't a prime mover for the theorizing seems to be a thing among ttRPG theorists (Well, not the ones we agree with of course!).

 

[Bedrockgames]

Technically, you need to wait for the TTRPG discourse to come up with the next word that explains what you've been doing all along WRONG.

That's why the words keep getting invented, right? We need fancy words to tell you, in the words of Steve Jobs, that you're holding it wrong.

My money is on Misimagining

 

[Emberashh]

I actually believe at some point crunch is going to have a renaissance, and while I don't think it'll be a return to 3.5e level crunch, I do think it'll be a direct counter-response to the tendency towards rules light and story games.

And I say that not just because my own game is in a lot of ways...uhh, that, but also because its just something I keep noticing in discourse all over the place.

Theres a substantial audience angling for something more than what RL and story games can provide that isn't being satisfied all that much by other games.

 

[soviet]

It's only a tabletop role playing game if your character is actually a tabletop, otherwise it's just sparkling storygaming.

 

[Emberashh]

It's only a tabletop role playing game if your character is actually a tabletop, otherwise it's just sparkling storygaming.

Do phones count?

 

[MichaelSomething]

I actually believe at some point crunch is going to have a renaissance, and while I don't think it'll be a return to 3.5e level crunch, I do think it'll be a direct counter-response to the tendency towards rules light and story games.

And I say that not just because my own game is in a lot of ways...uhh, that, but also because its just something I keep noticing in discourse all over the place.

Theres a substantial audience angling for something more than what RL and story games can provide that isn't being satisfied all that much by other games.

And those people (should) play Pathfinder 2E.

 

[Micah Sweet]

And those people (should) play Pathfinder 2E.

Very much not my preferred crunch.

 

[innerdude]

More people should play GURPS. Especially people who complain about verisimilitude issues in D&D.

If by "more people" you mean "literally no one," then I would agree with you.

 

[soviet]

It's disgusting how people have forgiven JK Simmons for what he did to Beecher.