D&D 5E Check Out Planescape's Table of Contents & More!

Brandes Stoddard has received a copy of Planescape: Adventures in the Multiverse (which come out in two weeks!) and is posting loads of photos over on Blue Sky. You can check out his feed for the whole treasure trove--here's a look at the table of contents.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

The gate towns are not really the outlands the plane. Technically they are(and technically is the best kind of correct), but really they're far more the planes they border than the outlands. If I want to run an adventure IN the outland, I have 2 pages(60-61). 4 pages if I include the 18 realms, but do you really think 2 pages for 18 realms is enough to tell you enough about each realm?

I love this wrong argument. The original setting is NOT the first boxed set. It's ALL of the boxed sets. They knew they were releasing the other stuff when they came up with the setting. Whether you like it or not, it DOES include all the Planescape products released, because that's how 2e rolled.

I reject your false dichotomy of "Next to no information on the planes" and "1000+ pages all at once." WotC has a proven history of not releasing follow up setting books for 5e in anything resembling a reasonable amount of time. As in none yet, even if they've promised some are coming.

They could easily have not put an adventure into this boxed set and had a good amount of information on the planes simply by using the pages spent on the adventure as setting material. 100 pages on the planes(96+4) is far better than 4, and at no additional cost. Then we would have gotten, you know, an actual setting based in the planes.

Very true, I'm still waiting for everything outside of the Swordcoast.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

If you look at what music gets downloaded the most, even Generation Zed prefers older to music to their own for the most part. 10% of Spotify music downloads are new music.

And I say that as some who does listen a small selection of Gen Zed/Millenial music. Still mostly 80s with a sprinkling of 90s, 60s, and 70s.

I would suggest that this has more to do with the younger generation mostly consuming music via YouTube and subscription based streaming services, so they are not buying individual tracks and albums.

I have also noticed a significant increase amongst teens in making music, rather than listening to it. Perhaps because the internet gives them an audience on-tap.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Found a post of the monsters by CR
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The Celestial stuff is the most interesting to me. Interestingly the natives of the Outlands appear to be Celestials which seem to have become the default for creatures of the Outer planes and Astral were Aberrant, Contruct, and Fiend don't make sense even if they aren't particularly linked to an Upper Plane. Dabus, Sunflies, and Rilmani are both Celestials, which means they can be targeted by spells and effects that target Celestials.

Archons and Guardinals get 3 apiece suggesting the rest could be in the 2024 MM and/or D&D Beyond Compendium.

Barbiurs are also Celestials, that could be why no playable version. Not sure why that would be worse then playable Fey, Monsterousity, or Ooze. Also possibly the only Chaotic Good Celestial, with the rest being Lawful Good, Neutral Good, True Neutral (or perhaps varied in the case of Sunflies). Not sure about the Celestial Planar Incarnate (could these be different to the Incarnate from past editions of Planescape, I mean those were simply known as Incarnates, not Planar Incarnates, CR22 seems high for OG Incarnate).

For fiends a couple of Yugoloths, Demodands, Malephants, a Reflection, with the most powerful being the Fiendish Planar Incarnate.

Celestial Eladarin seem completely left in the cold, also no Lillend or Asuras, with Aborea getting the short end of the stick, as while Aborea does have a Barbiur they are simply immigrants from Ysgard.

Githzerai Aberrants are weird given Gith hate Aberrants, especially Mindflayers. But could it be linked to becoming more linked to Limbo whose main creature type appears to be Aberrants like Slaads? Could these be more Chaotic Githzerai, a kind of substitute Limbo Planar race to Slaads who suck at being Chaotic Neutral Paragons?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It's called a Githzeai "unifier". Perhaps it belongs to a faction that wants to end the endless cycle of war by unifying gith and mindflayers (however ill-advised that might be!) It is, therefore, part mindflayer.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

It's called a Githzeai "unifier". Perhaps it belongs to a faction that wants to end the endless cycle of war by unifying gith and mindflayers (however ill-advised that might be!) It is, therefore, part mindflayer.

I had assumed it was trying to unify the Githzerai with Githyanki.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Also noticed Morte's Planar Parade has 16 pages before it even gets to creature stats, first Faction NPCs then Beastairy.

Petitioners seem to be seperate from both Faction NPCs and Beastairy, and not on the creature lists, so that suggests Template instead of Stat block.

Also Planar Influenced section is sizable, hopeful with more mechanical weight then what we saw in the D&D blog post.

Outlands also got a big chunk, perhaps offering up suggestions for creatures from other sources like MM, Radiant Citadel, Theros (I can see Aborea using the Nymphs), MotM, maybe stuff like Ravnica? (lot of reusible Angels).

One thing occurs to me, given we see the Storm Lord's in Fortidude's Art, what if those are given as Planar Incarnates, same with Beastlords? Just basically all their Planar Lords who who aren't full Gods, Archdevil, Slaad Lords, Primus, Guardinals, Archons, Archdemons, or ArchYugoloths. Folks just assumed Planar Incarnate = 2e Incarnates.

Otherwise it occurs to me they might just use Empyreans for the Storm Lords.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I had assumed it was trying to unify the Githzerai with Githyanki.

Why would that need it's own stat block?

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Why would that need it's own stat block?

Good point, maybe to mix Gith abilities, although that wouldn't explain the Aberration creature type. Maybe it's somekind of none Illithid Hivemind, like fight fire with fire.

The Githzerai Aberrants are odd and new either way, but it occurs to me that they may be related to the reality glitch that powers the plot of the adventure somehow.

 

[Reynard]

Why would that need it's own stat block?

Why do goblin warriors and goblin sneaks have different stat blocks? Because that is how we differentiate roles in 5E. If the unifier has unique abilities and performs a specific role, it is going to get a new stat block.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Why do goblin warriors and goblin sneaks have different stat blocks? Because that is how we differentiate roles in 5E. If the unifier has unique abilities and performs a specific role, it is going to get a new stat block.

There are already dozens of different gith stat blocks in MotM. I don't see any standard role that is significantly lacking.