D&D General Is DnD being mothballed?

[Parmandur]

That all makes sense though - the RPG is doing "fine" with the staff they have (and AFAIK they have increased staff from the lean days) but they're trying to branch out the brand into other areas, VTT, video games, etc. So the newer staff works on the newer stuff. But that doesn't take away from the RPG. It just leaves it as-is.

The only thing he's right about is that the RPG doesn't seem to be INCREASING in output, which is really, really different from "being mothballed". It's business as usual.

I mean, they're releasing more than a year's worth of playing material every year, right? And keeping old stuff in print. Hoard of the Dragon Queen, in various forms, has been continuously available for 9 years now. And sold better better the 3.5 PHB. And still selling into year 10...crazy.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

It's been nearly two years between major, player-facing publications. Even if we take a fairly expansive definition, between Strixhaven and Glory of the Giants, there was one "player"-related book...full of reprinted races. That's it.

How is that not a slowing of player-facing publication?

It's not a secret that they've been working on all-new core books!

Taking away premises has a tendency to render an argument illogical, yes. This shouldn't be shocking..

Okay?

The syllogism is exactly as I said it:
Slow is good
Slower is better
Therefore, slowest is best.

And what is the slowest possible publication speed? Zero. Stopping.

Repeating it doesn't make it any more true, though. That's just wordplay, not reality.

The reality is: The right pace is good. Too fast is bad. Too slow is bad. Stopping is bad.

That's it. There's nothing more.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

It's not a secret that they've been working on all-new core books!


Okay?


Repeating it doesn't make it any more true, though. That's just wordplay, not reality.

The reality is: The right pace is good. Too fast is bad. Too slow is bad. Stopping is bad.

That's it. There's nothing more.

It is literally a syllogism. It's not illogical. You may disagree with the premises, but the logical form is valid.

"X-state is good."
"Making Y-change to the current state improves it."
"Therefore, applying Y-change as much as you can makes the best result."

Now, you can certainly say that it is unsound, because that means you think that at least one of the premises is wrong. But it isn't a fallacy. It is, quite literally, "A; A implies B; therefore, B." In this case, the retort would be that you reject P2; you don't believe that slowing things down is always an improvement from the current state. Rejecting one of the premises is nothing, at all, like claiming that the argument is fallacious.

Edit: Further, you literally just admitted that it is slowing down--why is irrelevant, it IS slowing down--and there are folks claiming exactly what I said, that slower is better, period, end of discussion. Hence, it is a reasonable conclusion to say "it's slowing down and people act like it should slow down further. That's a bad sign."

 

[FitzTheRuke]

It is literally a syllogism. It's not illogical. You may disagree with the premises, but the logical form is valid.

"X-state is good."
"Making Y-change to the current state improves it."
"Therefore, applying Y-change as much as you can makes the best result."

Now, you can certainly say that it is unsound, because that means you think that at least one of the premises is wrong. But it isn't a fallacy. It is, quite literally, "A; A implies B; therefore, B." In this case, the retort would be that you reject P2; you don't believe that slowing things down is always an improvement from the current state. Rejecting one of the premises is nothing, at all, like claiming that the argument is fallacious.

Oh! I see what you're doing - you're objecting to my suggestion that it might be "some kind of fallacy". There's a reason that I didn't insist that it WAS a fallacy - I wasn't confident that it counted.

So you're correct: I reject the premise. It's nonsense. Clever wordplay, but nonsense.

 

[Zardnaar]

I would like more player type content. How much? Probably one more Xanathars type book.

Not a flood. Still haven't seen the tashas options in play. One more book sure. Flood na.

 

[Tony Vargas]

What I think he's getting at is that the RPG isn't getting the lions share of the funding. And in his opinion it shows and WotC is doing it intentionally.

That wouldn't be surprising. Corporate America being, well, Corporate.

Suit: "Excellent job with this Fifth edition of Deandee, you stayed under budget and growth is just blistering. Well done. Keep it up. No, we aren't going to give you a dump truck full of money so you can do even better. You delivered high growth on a low budget. Do it again."

 

[darjr]

That wouldn't be surprising. Corporate America being, well, Corporate.

Suit: "Excellent job with this Fifth edition of Deandee, you stayed under budget and growth is just blistering. Well done. Keep it up. No, we aren't going to give you a dump truck full of money so you can do even better. You delivered high growth on a low budget. Do it again."

Likely get the budget cut. Clearly they didn’t need it all. snrk

 

[Clint_L]

Discussions like this are why content producers make clickbait titles.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

His rather flippant dismissal of the positive effects of a slower release schedule doesn't sit well with me.

This. It struck me as so actively, willfully, foolish and fallacious in reasoning, that I had a hard time taking anything else he had to say.

That, and I just don’t trust him as a source about D&D 5e right now. He’s nowhere near dndshorts or nerd-immersion, he doesn’t really do that sort of clickbait crap, but he is very melodramatic and tweets his thought spirals way too much.

 

[Parmandur]

This. It struck me as so actively, willfully, foolish and fallacious in reasoning, that I had a hard time taking anything else he had to say.

That, and I just don’t trust him as a source about D&D 5e right now. He’s nowhere near dndshorts or nerd-immersion, he doesn’t really do that sort of clickbait crap, but he is very melodramatic and tweets his thought spirals way too much.

It was kind of shocking to see the accurate answer to his question shot down so dismissively.