Planescape Planescape IS D&D Says Jeremy Crawford

Planescape is Jeremy Crawford's favourite D&D setting. "It is D&D", he says, as he talks about how in the 2024 core rulebook updates Planescape will be more up front and center as "the setting of settings".

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[Parmandur]

It depends on the type of Multiverse, D&D Cosmology VS D&D Parrell Timelines.

D&D Cosmology is awesome and hasn't been a disaster for D&D, the upcoming Vecna Adventure on the other hand which likely was inspired by Everything Everywhere All At Once, may very likely prove to be a Spell plague level disaster, but on a multiversal, multi setting scale (much like March of the Machine was). I just had a sinking feeling Vecna is going to be an epic disaster.

They can't even handle their own canon in this edition, they won't be able to handle the complexity of what they might be trying to do.

It won't be 5e24 core books that kills 5e, it'll be the Vecna Adventure if they screw it up.

I'm pretty excited for that Adventure. Hopefully helps clear the ground for the future of D&D as a game.

 

[Maxperson]

The thing is, he was absolutely correct in saying that. The core books are chock full of references to non-FR worlds.

Sure, but "the multiverse" isn't a setting. It's a bunch of settings. You can't have a default non-setting setting. It's either a setting or it's not, and the multiverse is not.

 

[Charlaquin]

Sure, but "the multiverse" isn't a setting. It's a bunch of settings. You can't have a default non-setting setting. It's either a setting or it's not, and the multiverse is not.

It’s absolutely a setting. It’s a very broad setting, but a setting nonetheless.

 

[Maxperson]

It’s absolutely a setting. It’s a very broad setting, but a setting nonetheless.

If it's a setting, then there's no such thing as any other setting since it includes everything. Oerth? Nope! That's the multiverse. Forgotten Realms? Nope. That's also the multiverse.

The multiverse is a connector. It connects settings to one another. It's the glue that connects settings, not a setting itself.

 

[Echohawk]

If it's a setting, then there's no such thing as any other setting since it includes everything. Oerth? Nope! That's the multiverse. Forgotten Realms? Nope. That's also the multiverse.

The multiverse is a connector. It connects settings to one another. It's the glue that connects settings, not a setting itself.

Why can't a setting be part of a larger setting? Kara-Tur is a setting. But it is also a sub-setting of the broader Forgotten Realms setting. Which is, in turn, part of the broader Spelljammer setting. Which is, in turn, part of the multiverse.

 

[Charlaquin]

If it's a setting, then there's no such thing as any other setting since it includes everything. Oerth? Nope! That's the multiverse. Forgotten Realms? Nope. That's also the multiverse.

Those are settings. They just also exist within the broader multiverse setting. You could run a game set in one of them that did not include the broader multiverse, just as you could run a game set in Kata-Tur that did not include the rest of the Forgotten Realms. That doesn’t make either of them not settings. They are settings with different scopes nested within one another.

 

[Hussar]

But the multiverse has a setting.

Planescape.

Doesn’t matter where you start, the second you step off your plane, you’re in Planescape with all the accompanying baggage.

It’s why I like the new Spelljammer. I get all the benefits of a multiverse without the thousands of pages of philosophy and lore that leaves me cold.

 

[QuentinGeorge]

Good to see one of the most hated aspects of Planescape (its propensity to poke its nose in other settings) is making a comeback! Next thing they'll say Tiamat is Takhisis......

 

[pemerton]

Next thing they'll say Tiamat is Takhisis......

That's old news:

From the AD&D Manual of the Planes (1987), p 111:

As Takhisis in the world of Krynn, Tiamat has never let her followers know that there are other arch-devils or that there is a Nine Hells at all.​

 

[teitan]

While I don't need, I always appreciate more ideas whether that is from WotC, 3PP, redit, or here on EnWorld. So if WotC puts a lot of homebrew support in the 2024 DMG that is a net gain IMO.

I agree with this 100%, I think it is just very odd the way some people think homebrew NEEDS support like sourcebooks and rules, to me that is the opposite of homebrew. A book like Dungeonscape was super cool and it helped me build my own dungeons for sure but I always felt that I had plenty of guidelines for doing everything in that book in the DMG for 3.x. If WOTC puts it out it is for sure great. One of my criticisms of Dragonbane is that it doesn't have a lot of support for homebrewing monsters out of the literal box but man is it a sweet game. The new Bestiary will go a long way to making it complete.