Are Superhero films dying?

[MichaelSomething]

Super Hero movies growing stale? This looks like a job for Kiteman!!
Edit: I did not know Eric's Grandma unfriendly Youtube video's won't play here on Enworld. But the "watch on Youtube" button will redirect to Youtube where you can watch it.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I'm with you on reboots, but every now and then they get one right. I was skeptical about the Pattinson Batman but he pretty much nailed it, as a "year one" detective Batman.

Yeah that's one of the very, very few reboots I actually really liked, because it gave us something that, despite being "Batman again!", actually seemed fresh and had some energy to it, and didn't really resemble the blow-dried, hairsprayed, airbrushed crop of MCU/DCCU movies. It's also way less of an origin story than Batman Begins. This Batman is already up and running, and there's very little shown before that. As such it has more in common with Batman (1990) (as I remember it anyway).

I would really love to see a good Fantastic 4 movie.

I'm in camp "it ain't gonna happen". They've averaging one attempt per decade for the last 30 years, which is a pretty high rate. One was so bad they basically dug a hole and buried it, one was completely mid according to absolutely everyone and had the worst Doctor Doom ever, but hey it got an sequel, and the most recent one is apparently regarded as one of the worst films ever made, and certainly is one of the worst full-budget superhero movies ever made.

And the FF only get less and less relevant. And their comics reinventions or refocusing have only worked in comics because of their deep backstory and all the cosmic stuff going on with them, which would be very hard to establish in a movie or two. I think there is a real love for them among a certain subset of Gen X, but I feel like their impact on anyone much younger has been close to zero, and evidence strongly suggests they are very hard to bring to the screen in a way that works.

I could be wrong - but I'll be really impressed if Disney can make them anything audiences are excited by.

 

[Ryujin]

And the FF only get less and less relevant. And their comics reinventions or refocusing have only worked in comics because of their deep backstory and all the cosmic stuff going on with them, which would be very hard to establish in a movie or two. I think there is a real love for them among a certain subset of Gen X, but I feel like their impact on anyone much younger has been close to zero, and evidence strongly suggests they are very hard to bring to the screen in a way that works.

The FF is essentially a super nuclear family, which might resonate somewhat with boomers like me, but is less and less relevant to an audience today.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

I still havent' watched the last batman movie.

Pattinson is great! The mood is amazing! It looks good! The writing is terrible!

So, you know.

 

[Ryujin]

Pattinson is great! The mood is amazing! It looks good! The writing is terrible!

So, you know.

Writing in a superhero movie sets a pretty low bar. By that measure it was Tolstoy

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

Now, it's not looking like Hollywood's actors' strike is going to end any time soon (studios have made another 'this is totally our final offer' final offer and it's not sounding great), so we won't be getting anything soon anyway...

And actors also aren't doing press tours to even promote what movies the studios are able to release (hi there, Marvels, whose prerelease numbers are looking kind of awful).

 

[Gradine]

Writing in a superhero movie sets a pretty low bar. By that measure it was Tolstoy

Every once in a blue moon I'll have a flash of memory to "thumb drive" and laugh.

 

[MarkB]

The FF is essentially a super nuclear family, which might resonate somewhat with boomers like me, but is less and less relevant to an audience today.

Plus the best version of that aspect of them already exists in the form of The Incredibles, so how do they capture that without just copying it?

 

[Kaodi]

Supposedly pre-sales in South Korea, where The Marvels opens on the 8th instead of the 10th, are 50% of Quantumania and 45% of Volume 3. I wonder whether their review embargo will lift tomorrow.

 

[Zardnaar]

Supposedly pre-sales in South Korea, where The Marvels opens on the 8th instead of the 10th, are 50% of Quantumania and 45% of Volume 3. I wonder whether their review embargo will lift tomorrow.

Roughly on track with current projections.

If it comes in on the low side it's not gonna get that much more than the D&D movie opening weekend (35ish iirc million vs 40ish million).