D&D General One thing I hate about the Sorcerer

[Minigiant]

That's fine, as long as pact magic dies in a fire during the merger.

Community likes Pact magic.

Better to fix Sorcerer then merge the classes.

 

[Shardstone]

Pact Magic is by and far the best spellcasting paradigm in vanilla 5E. Only thing better then it for 5E d20 IMO is spell points.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

The only strange thing about pact magic is that only the warlocks use this structure; all other casters are long rest based. I think they should mix it up more.

 

[CreamCloud0]

they should have made their casting stat Constitution. Not only making them sturdier, but also making them the easiest class to MC, something that I feel makes sense if anybody can suddenly manifest a sorcerous origin. Going full sorcerer would represent actually investing time to develop your gift, while a MC dip would represent refusing to do so. Lots of story potential in that.

can't say i'm especially eagre to see mechanics used that way, i feel like it would just get exploited and the narrative ignored like how all the CHA classes take bladelock dips for CHA pact weapon.

 

[Vaalingrade]

It's time to just let everyone pick their primary stat.

 

[Remathilis]

It didn’t, though I considered it. What you have against it?

How much time do you have?

I'll leave it at this: I find pact magic to be kludgy and inelegant. If you want to combine all the flavorful casters into one, it should be an actual spellcasting class with enough magic to cast, not a two-pump-chump with a great cantrip.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

It's time to just let everyone pick their primary stat.

At that point it would make more sense to just get rid of the stats altogether.

 

[Vaalingrade]

I'll leave it at this: I find pact magic to be kludgy and inelegant.

As opposed to the five minute workday and nightly 'guess what the DM is thinking' homework?

 

[Minigiant]

The only strange thing about pact magic is that only the warlocks use this structure; all other casters are long rest based. I think they should mix it up more.

The community surveyed the playtest was more conservative than the community who played the game

 

[Undrave]

can't say i'm especially eagre to see mechanics used that way, i feel like it would just get exploited and the narrative ignored like how all the CHA classes take bladelock dips for CHA pact weapon.

I can see why that would be a concern. But if it uses CON then it's basically being built off of everybody's secondary stat, maybe even tiertiary, and that means no more perfect synergy with the other CHA classes. You could also build the MC benefits around this universality.

Pact Magic is by and far the best spellcasting paradigm in vanilla 5E. Only thing better then it for 5E d20 IMO is spell points.

Yeah! Especially in addition to invocations.