D&D General (SPOILERS for Vecna: Eve of Ruin) Are My Standards Too High for Adventures?

[DEFCON 1]

It does leave the question unanswered though. If you feel that WotC isn't making good adventures, what can you point to as the reason? Not the people who made it, apparently. The publisher? Yourself?

I don't feel the need to point to a reason at all.

If an adventure isn't for me... that's fine. No biggie. I'm fairly certain it's for somebody, so if it's not me, then congrats to the person for whom it works like a charm. Why should I worry about why the product wasn't something I wanted?

I just don't get why people seem to get so annoyed when a product is made that isn't for them. I mean, why does it matter? Usually when it does, I attribute it to ego-- the person feels like they should be the customer that WotC wants, and thus WotC should be making the product that they will be pleased with. And if WotC doesn't... then what the heck is wrong with them? Something must be really wrong over there if they can't make a product the person thinks is exactly what they want it to be. Because the game is about them, right?

Which of course I find to be rather childish. I feel It is completely okay that WotC makes a product that I don't like. And I don't need to attribute the fact to malice, or incompetence, or any other negative feeling towards the workers at that company because they dared to make something that other people like and I don't.

 

[Parmandur]

I don't feel the need to point to a reason at all.

If an adventure isn't for me... that's fine. No biggie. I'm fairly certain it's for somebody, so if it's not me, then congrats to the person for whom it works like a charm. Why should I worry about why the product wasn't something I wanted?

I just don't get why people seem to get so annoyed when a product is made that isn't for them. I mean, why does it matter? Usually when it does, I attribute it to ego-- the person feels like they should be the customer that WotC wants, and thus WotC should be making the product that they will be pleased with. And if WotC doesn't... then what the heck is wrong with them? Something must be really wrong over there if they can't make a product the person thinks is exactly what they want it to be. Because the game is about them, right?

Which of course I find to be rather childish. I feel It is completely okay that WotC makes a product that I don't like. And I don't need to attribute the fact to malice, or incompetence, or any other negative feeling towards the workers at that company because they dared to make something that other people like and I don't.

I don't really care for the Acquisitions Incorporated book, and never got it. But a lot of people love it, and I am happy for everyone involved.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I don't feel the need to point to a reason at all.

If an adventure isn't for me... that's fine. No biggie. I'm fairly certain it's for somebody, so if it's not me, then congrats to the person for whom it works like a charm. Why should I worry about why the product wasn't something I wanted?

I just don't get why people seem to get so annoyed when a product is made that isn't for them. I mean, why does it matter? Usually when it does, I attribute it to ego-- the person feels like they should be the customer that WotC wants, and thus WotC should be making the product that they will be pleased with. And if WotC doesn't... then what the heck is wrong with them? Something must be really wrong over there if they can't make a product the person thinks is exactly what they want it to be. Because the game is about them, right?

Which of course I find to be rather childish. I feel It is completely okay that WotC makes a product that I don't like. And I don't need to attribute the fact to malice, or incompetence, or any other negative feeling towards the workers at that company because they dared to make something that other people like and I don't.

Sure, but it can be very hard to ignore when the balance between they make stuff you like and they make stuff you don't really starts to shift mostly or entirely into the negative. Quite frankly, not everyone is as strong as you.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

More evidence that WotC simply does not care about experienced/veteran fans beyond throwing a few nostalgia bones at them to get their $$$ (more this time, obviously). It's all about getting new sources of sales through the door.

I simply don’t think this is true. They clearly have a lot of love for the history. Profit is important yes, but I don’t see it as any more important than it was in the Adventures TSR made.

 

[DEFCON 1]

Sure, but it can be very hard to ignore when the balance between they make stuff you like and they make stuff you don't really starts to shift mostly or entirely into the negative. Quite frankly, not everyone is as strong as you.

Then people should work on becoming stronger. Or maturing. Or whatever terms we wish to use.

But if anyone thinks they can remain pissy because they don't get what they want and expect to be able to express their pissiness in a way that puts the problem on the people who aren't giving them what they want, rather than acknowledging that it's purely their own issues they have... that's when the rest of us will show up and tell them they might need to grow up a little.

If someone doesn't like something.... that's fine. It happens. To all of us. But if that person then tries to blame the one who made the thing they didn't like... that's when the person is acting ridiculous and will get called out on it.

 

[KYRON45]

I simply don’t think this is true. They clearly have a lot of love for the history. Profit is important yes, but I don’t see it as any more important than it was in the Adventures TSR made.

This sentiment might be why TSR went out of business.

 

[MockingBird]

This sentiment might be why TSR went out of business.

TSR went out of business for practically destroying its creatives. That and the abundance of material self competing along with the inability to be able to adapt their material schedule for what was actually selling. TSRs demise was a bunch of factors.

 

[Parmandur]

TSR went out of business for practically destroying its creatives. That and the abundance of material self competing along with the inability to be able to adapt their material schedule for what was actually selling. TSRs demise was a bunch of factors.

Mostly comes down to "not being good at business" with a side of "cocaine" from what I have pieced together.

 

[Reynard]

Mostly comes down to "not being good at business" with a side of "cocaine" from what I have pieced together.

Don't forget nepotism and essentially embezzlement by way of the Buck Rogers license.

 

[Parmandur]

Don't forget nepotism and essentially embezzlement by way of the Buck Rogers license.

They are still trying to make Buck Roger's a thing, 25 years after moving on from TSR.