D&D 5E (2024) Ranger 2024 is a bigger joke than Ranger 2014:

[Nikosandros]

It was the early days of game design. Clarity wasn't important.

Giant was "an humaniod shaped being that wasnt a human, dwarf, or elf"

It is peculiar, IMO, because - as far as I can tell, it first appeared in SR2 and was only used for rangers.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The Wizard is an Arcane Scholar in a game where careful research in libraries and laboratories barely exist.

The Wizard isn't generally regarded as underpowered.

Agreed. We should have more magical research in our 5e. I assume that's the take-away here.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The 2024 Ranger is is a joke because it is uninspired and bland not because it's class features aren't broken.

Now, now, everyone gets to decide for themselves how the 2024 ranger is a joke.

 

[Micah Sweet]

they need to go back to the drawing board assuming they still have one and are not just listening to an algorithm spit out stuff.

That algorithm idea has seemed more likely for years now.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I wonder how many 1e Rangers actually ran into a giant during an adventure? Does anyone know what the most commonly encountered monster type in every edition of D&D was?

Undead? Humanoid?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I would recommend the Level Up ranger, built for a game that does have an emphasis on wilderness exploration.

I’m not into wilderness exploration myself. I live in London, I’m defeated by hay fever.

Ignoring rangers as irrelevant is my preference.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I’m not into wilderness exploration myself. I live in London, I’m defeated by hay fever.

Ignoring rangers as irrelevant is my preference.

Also a valid choice.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

We haven’t seen the final version of the Hunter’s Mark spell. I’m holding hope that it has scaling like the damaging cantrips use. 5 ranger levels two dice, 11 ranger levels three dice. It also could help incentivize sticking with the class and minimize multiclass dips.

So that capstone changes all dice to d10s. That now feels much more of a capstone.

Then hunter’s mark eliminates using a bonus action to designate a new target when the current target drops to 0 hp. This would help with the traffic jam competing for bonus actions.

Maybe Monday’s video on Spells will lift the veil on the spell?

 

[Sulicius]

I don’t mind the “exploration features” being removed. To me, skill checks and some spells are all you need.

As for the whole Hunter’s Mark thing, I am not too worried. The ranger’s better than the 2014 version already.

 

[Nikosandros]

We haven’t seen the final version of the Hunter’s Mark spell. I’m holding hope that it has scaling like the damaging cantrips use. 5 ranger levels two dice, 11 ranger levels three dice. It also could help incentivize sticking with the class and minimize multiclass dips.

So that capstone changes all dice to d10s. That now feels much more of a capstone.

Then hunter’s mark eliminates using a bonus action to designate a new target when the current target drops to 0 hp. This would help with the traffic jam competing for bonus actions.

Maybe Monday’s video on Spells will lift the veil on the spell?

That's an interesting idea, but the text they've used in the preview article doesn't seem to support it. Let's see if they talk about it in Monday's video.