D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Sorcerer"

[UngeheuerLich]

They listed the Arcane Spell casting classes and compared the Sorcerer to them and kept leaving the Bard out, despite Bards being the closest to the Sorcerer in terms of Spellcasting, and you think it means nothing?

I still hope the bard gets ench, div, abj, transm from all three lists. And then later they can chose to expand one or two lists to full.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

So we’re stuck with the nerfed version of Arcane Apotheosis. My bet is the cleric’s UA capstone will stick, so they’ll be the only class that can avoid the 1/3 chance of losing Wish. However, maybe that 1/3 chance is gone for every class in the new version of Wish.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

As of the playtest
2 at level 2
+2 at level 10
+2 at level 17
=6
With 10 total to choose from.

The 2 that stack are both rerolls (damage and to-hit)

That is not enough, as you need more than two at level 7.
Choosing 2 of 2 makes strategical choices rather onedimensional.

 

[mellored]

I still hope the bard gets ench, div, abj, transm from all three lists. And then later they can chose to expand one or two lists to full.

I kind of hope the bards don't have a list, and can pick any spell.

Maybe too strong, but it would be unique.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I kind of hope the bards don't have a list, and can pick any spell.

Maybe too strong, but it would be unique.

I think at level 1 that is way too much. But in higher tiers, I'd like that.

 

[GarrettKP]

OK, so:

• Main Iconic, Elf woman
• Aberrant, Dragonborn
• Clockwork, Dwarf man
• Draconic, Human man
• Wild, Halfling woman, prosthetic arm

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Art piece with iconic Elf Sorcerer and Rieflinf Bard:

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Still missing one Monk (Open Hand) but here’s the breakdown so far:

Human - 10
Elf - 8
Dragonborn - 6
Dwarf - 5
Gnome - 5
Aasimar - 4
Tiefling - 3
Orc - 3
Goliath - 3
Halfling - 2

 

[Remathilis]

I just realized they didn't cover the new Twin Spell. I got a feeling it's going to be a nothigburger ability now.

 

[Stalker0]

As of the playtest
2 at level 2
+2 at level 10
+2 at level 17
=6
With 10 total to choose from.

The 2 that stack are both rerolls (damage and to-hit)

Aka 2 for the lifetime of the sorc in 95% of games played.

 

[Stalker0]

the sorc still requires material components to cast spells from their "innate power".....LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE! (in seriousness mechanically its not a big deal but flavorwise I have never understood it. Just let sorcs count themselves as an arcane focus when cast sorc spells, aka ACTUAL innate magic!)

I think the sorc rage is fine but it still seems a bit tacked on (do the subclasses modify it at all?). Maybe some sorc spells will further modify it. I mean +1 DC is +1 DC, but it seems weird to add this new class feature as kind of a new centerpiece for the sorc and for the vast majority of the sorcs time, that's literally all it does.

The brass tax will come down to the metamagics, depending on how those look will greatly impact how good the sorc looks overall.

 

[Parmandur]

Still missing one Monk (Open Hand) but here’s the breakdown so far:

Human - 10
Elf - 8
Dragonborn - 6
Dwarf - 5
Gnome - 5
Aasimar - 4
Tiefling - 3
Orc - 3
Goliath - 3
Halfling - 2

Hmmmmm,might be about time to start doing a full accounting, I am fairly certain we have seen at least 3 Halflings (Rogue Main, Wild Mage, and ar least 1 other).