WotC WotC Removes Digital Content Team Credits From D&D Beyond

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According to Faith Elisabeth Lilley, who was on the digital content team at Wizards of the Coast, the contributor credits for the team have been removed from DDB.

The team was responsible for content feedback and the implementation of book content on the online platform. While it had been indicated to them that they would not be included in the credits of the physical books for space reasons, WotC apparently agreed to include them in the online credits.

It appears that those credits have now been removed.

I just discovered that I have been removed from book credits on D&D Beyond for books I worked on while at Wizards of the Coast.

Background:

While at Wizards (so after D&D Beyond was purchased) - with numerous books, my digital content team and I worked directly with the book team on the content, reading through rules drafts, suggesting changes, giving ideas, and catching issues. We had a full database of the content and understood exactly how it interacted.

Given that we were contributing to the content in the books, I felt it reasonable to request that team be added to the credits, but was informed the credits section was already too crowded with the number of people involved and many of the marketing team had already been dropped from credits. I felt strongly that anyone actually contributing to what is in the printed book should be credited though, so we agreed a compromise, that the team would be added to the credits page on D&D Beyond only, as there is no issue with "not enough space" on a web page.

I've added screenshots here that I had for some of the books.

At some point recently, those credits pages have been edited to remove the credits for me and the content team. Nobody reached out to let me know - it just happened at some point, and I only just noticed.

We've even been removed from the digital-only releases, that only released on D&D Beyond, such as the Spelljammer Academy drops.

I'm not angry or upset, just yet again, really disappointed, as somehow I expected better.

EDIT TO ADD MORE CONTEXT

It's not just getting the books online. I worked with Kyle & Dan to improve the overall book process from ideation to delivery across all mediums (you should have seen the huge process charts I built out...)

The lead designers would send over the rules for each new rulebook and we'd go through it, give feedback, highlight potential balance issues, look at new rules/design that was difficult to implement digitally and suggest tweaks to improve it etc etc. We even had ideas for new content that was then included in the book.

We'd go through the whole book in detail, catching inconsistencies and miscalculations, and I'm proud to say that we dramatically reduced the need for clarifications or errata on those books.

I'm not saying anyone on the design or book team was careless - far from it, they're consummate professionals - I am just illustrating the role my team and I had in contributing to the content, quality & success of the physical books, let alone the digital versions.

We should have been in the credits section of the physical printed book. We were part of the creative process. That was something we were actively discussing when I was informed I was being laid off.

Adding the team to the credits pages just on D&D Beyond was, as I mentioned above, a compromise while we figured things out.

My team were fully credited on the Cortex: Prime and Tales of Xadia books when D&D Beyond was still part of Fandom, before the Wizards acquisition.

In fact for those books we made sure to credit the entire digital development team, including developers, community managers and so forth - everyone who helped make the book successful.

I know that Wizards has hundreds of people involved and previously hit issues with the number of people in credits for D&D books, so pulled back from crediting some roles.

Would it be so bad to have to dedicate extra space in a book to the people whose contributions made the book successful?

I really don't think it would.
 

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Specifically, I apparently have Descent into the Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth in my account and this is what is currently still listed for D&D Beyond credits. I was initially wondering if this was a case of them just removing credits for former employees (assuming Jeff still works there for example), but I saw his name on some of the products @Echohawk mentioned that have the credits removed.
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It’s interesting he’s listed solo on this one. All the others he was listed alongside another name.
 

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It has been explained. You replied to that explanation with, basically, "And?"

It seems as though you either don't want to accept or don't understand that the issue described is, in fact, an issue in this industry. I'll take the word of those (multiple) people who do who have chimed in in this thread that it is.
I don’t think it was explained at all before he asked that question. As of now I think we have a great answer for it.
 

The practice of only getting a credit on the digital version isn't something that's done anywhere else - it was only ever intended to be an interim, while we agreed how to add the team to the credits for the physical books going forward.

Industry standard is - if you contributed to the content / design in a book in some respect, your name should be in the credits.
Thanks!!

For what it’s worth, you’ve changed my opinion.
 

Right. But my question wasn’t about those. It was about the 9 products where those credits are still present.
Here are screenshots of the credits for the nine that still have the those credits:
Adventure Atlas - The Mortuary.jpg
Descent into the Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth.jpg
Giants of the Star Forge.jpg
Heroes Feast - Saving the Children's Menu.jpg
Legendary Magic Items.jpg
Lightning Keep.jpg
Monstrous Compendium Vol 4 - Eldraine Creatures.jpg
Tyranny of Dragons.jpg
Vecna - Nest of the Eldritch Eye.jpg
 

It has been explained. You replied to that explanation with, basically, "And?"

It seems as though you either don't want to accept or don't understand that the issue described is, in fact, an issue in this industry. I'll take the word of those (multiple) people who do who have chimed in in this thread that it is.
This. But also, it's the Internet Age. Information is pretty freely available, so when folks refuse to freely avail themselves of that information and instead passive aggressively demand continual further explanations, it comes off as having an agenda.
 

Here are screenshots of the credits for the nine that still have the those credits:
Not sure if it’s just me but I’m getting errors when trying to load any of those screenshots.
 


Try again now. ENWorld mangled them and I had to edit the post to fix them.
Works now! Doesn’t appear to be any pattern there.

My speculative guess is different product managers are responsible for the different products which is why not all those credits have been removed. Probably having some big internal conversations about how to proceed now. But that’s just speculation. Probably will never really know.
 



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