D&D (2024) New stealth rules.

[MarkB]

Does this eliminate Passive Perception? Are passive checks even a thing in onednd?

Apparently the Players Handbook mentions how to calculate a passive score, but includes no instance of actually using them for any purpose.

 

[Zaukrie]

D'oh! Should have glanced at threads before posting on the other thread. In any case copied over ...

The reason I don't like a static stealth target is because it should be easier to sneak past a sleeping guard than an alert ancient red dragon. I can grant advantage/disadvantage on the check of course but that to me is not enough. Like I said above, it's one of those rules I'll ignore in my home game unless there's optional rules in the DMG.

Pretty sure that your roll is the DC for a check, the static part is to start being hidden. Once you move past a creature, I'd assume your DM gives them a chance to detect you.

 

[Reynard]

Lol. 10 years of community feedback and they still can't get Stealth right.

 

[MarkB]

Pretty sure that your roll is the DC for a check, the static part is to start being hidden. Once you move past a creature, I'd assume your DM gives them a chance to detect you.

Yes, that is specifically in the rules text in the OP (note that in the video it's explained that all the white text in those screenshots is copied directly from the Players Handbook).

 

[SpellObjectEnthusiast]

Apparently the Players Handbook mentions how to calculate a passive score, but includes no instance of actually using them for any purpose.

I would not be surprised if they straight up are eliminating it as a concept.

 

[Oofta]

Pretty sure that your roll is the DC for a check, the static part is to start being hidden. Once you move past a creature, I'd assume your DM gives them a chance to detect you.

I'm assuming the PC sneaking still can't be clearly seen or the creature being snuck past is paying attention to something else. If the PC can be clearly seen and the creature is looking in their direction, they're going to be seen if I'm DMing.

But some of this may be covered in the DMG, sounds like there's no mention of opposed rolls in the PHB either.

 

[Reynard]

I would not be surprised if they straight up are eliminating it as a concept.

They could at least change the name to what it actually is: continuous checks.

 

[Xeviat]

I really don't like invisibility being used in this case. "Hidden" as a condition is the perfect solution. You can be invisible without being hidden, and you can be hidden without being invisible.

 

[Stalker0]

So Treantmonk mentioned that if he didn't cover it in his video, he didn't notice any changes. Taht suggests that the rules for perception and finding creatures has really changed.

If that is the case..... woo boy these new rules for stealth suck.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

Lol. 10 years of community feedback and they still can't get Stealth right.

Treating stealth as a static DC invisibility does work well enough for using it in combat. Now, the believability problems arise when you apply the same rules outside of combat, and that's not what WotC is here for, why aren't you in combat.