D&D (2024) 2024 Spell Changes

[Micah Sweet]

This incarnation might actually get used. The older versions I've only seen two times total in 41 years. Nobody wanted to come back as a badger or some other animal.

That was the best part of it. It wasn't up to the PC getting reincarnated. You were in a bad spot and took a crazy gamble, dealing with the consequences. That's D&D to me.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The Command spell now restricts you to a fixed list of commands. I think this is a terrible change, as creative uses of spells is one of the great things about D&D. I think they did this just to make it more easily adapted for Project Sigil.

Animate Objects changed, too, in a similar creativity-sucking way. Now you can't animate objects fastened to a surface, and no gargantuan objects. Nothing flies anymore - all targets grow legs. You get a number of points equal to your spellcasting modifier, with bigger objects taking more points, so you can animate medium/small (1 point, 10hp, 1d4+3 damage), Large (2 points, 20hp, 2d6+3+mod damage) or Huge (3 points, 40 hp, 2d12+3+mod damage) objects.

They have decidedly moved away from having effects be mostly about representing them logically and much more towards specific mechanical needs with a thin veneer of being what they're supposed to be. Sleep doesn't feel like putting enemies to sleep. Invisibility doesn't make you invisible in the sense anyone would expect outside of the 5.5 glossary. Animate Object is now very specific on what objects it animates and how. Interpretation as a concept seems to be going away.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Are you sure it's not to lower the power of a top tier spell that could do too many things? "Fogive", "confess", "resign", "regret", "convert".

Or to stop people from saying "Undress", "masterbate", "defecate", "rape" or other perverted stuff?

I can think of plenty of creative reasons that don't have to do with Project Sigil.

All of those reasons go against what the spell is supposed to be able to do.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

Oh yeah, Find Traps still doesn't find traps, because what are words anyway.

 

[mellored]

All of those reasons go against what the spell is supposed to be able to do.

Well suggestion still exsists, and you can do all that stuff and more.

So maybe it's was just a power balance nerf.

 

[Nijay]

Oh yeah, Find Traps still doesn't find traps, because what are words anyway.

And taking this from today's TM video comments - Otto's Irresistible Dance is now resistible.

 

[Kobold Stew]

FIND FAMILIAR: Here is one where I feel my feedback specifically has been heard.* But (according to the discussion here):

Find Familiar no longer requires you to have a brass brazier to cast. Now you just burn 10gp worth of incense.

(Here's me wishing for it just last month. Crappy use of a Wish spell, all things considered.)

 

[Nijay]

Wait a second, do I understand right that the Sleep spell applies the Incapacitated condition - which allows them to move? So an incapacitated flying (or climbing, or swimming) creature doesn't fall?

 

[Nijay]

The one spell in 5e I would actually want to be buffed was in fact Witch Bolt, so that sounds awesome. UNLIMTED POWER!!!

Does anyone have the text?

 

[UngainlyTitan]

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That is now a nasty spell, there is no real getting away from it outside of putting range or cover between you and the caster.