D&D General Bob World Builder Recreates WOTC's "Do You Like Me?" Survey!

[The Myopic Sniper]

She's always struck me as the opposite of cynical and pessimistic. Just curious what subjects you think she is that way on?

Early on in her influencer career, she made a lot of statements about earlier editions, old school play and gamer culture in comparison to newer styles that probably didn't help her cause by seeming purposely dismissive, but really were just misinformed. She has lightened up a lot since then and owned up to her ignorance on the topic and I think it is just water under the bridge for most folks now.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Early on in her influencer career, she made a lot of statements about earlier editions, old school play and gamer culture in comparison to newer styles that probably didn't help her cause by seeming purposely dismissive, but really were just misinformed. She has lightened up a lot since then and owned up to her ignorance on the topic and I think it is just water under the bridge for most folks now.

Yeah, I remember her explicitly walking back an earlier video sneering at min-maxers. She's evolving in public, which beats doubling down on even bad takes, just to seem "committed," or whatever, which is more common nowadays.

 

[Remathilis]

. Do they not understand that D&D is a WotC product?

There is a push in the community to declare anything that remotely looks like D&D as "D&D", presumably to Xerox the trademark.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

There is a push in the community to declare anything that remotely looks like D&D as "D&D", presumably to Xerox the trademark.

Or just because it's tedious to have to explain what an RPG is to newbies constantly, instead of saying "sure, it's D&D. We'll worry about the details later."

 

[Remathilis]

And what did they gain? Nothing. So there is a low quality version out there. In less than a month there will be very high quality versions out there. They did lose more trust, though, by acting in such an imperious manner. Getting the some of the Youtubers serious warnings.

And I would assume you would have the same feeling if I put a handcam recorded copy of Deadpool and Wolverine on my YouTube channel and Disney cracked down on me? I mean, an 4k quality version will be on the web in a few months, so why come crashing down on their fans?

 

[Remathilis]

Or just because it's tedious to have to explain what an RPG is to newbies constantly, instead of saying "sure, it's D&D. We'll worry about the details later."

"Come over, we're playing D&D!"

Me, bringing my 2024 PHB to your Pathfinder 2e Revised campaign: [emoji52]

 

[el-remmen]

Do they not understand that D&D is a WotC product?

No it isn’t. Or rather, it is not just that.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

"Come over, we're playing D&D!"

Me, bringing my 2024 PHB to your Pathfinder 2e Revised campaign: [emoji52]

That's not what happens, though, but OK.

It's the equivalent of people in large parts of the South calling all soda "Coke." When you ask for a "Coke," they'll ask what kind. People aren't quite as dumb as they're often made out to be.

 

[Marandahir]

"Come over, we're playing D&D!"

Me, bringing my 2024 PHB to your Pathfinder 2e Revised campaign: [emoji52]

I've mostly heard Pathfinder games getting explicitly called Pathfinder by players, rather than as, "D&D. – What version? Oh, Pathfinder revised.

 

[SlyFlourish]

I'm a bit late to this thread, but they really haven't done anything since the OGL debacle to rebuild trust.

As one of the youtubers who got shut down, let me come to their defense.

Here are some big things they've done since the OGL debacle:

• Release the 5.1 SRD into the CC.
• Release the 5.1 SRD into four languages.
• Build a whole suite of free after-school resources including downloadable PDF adventures for kids.
• Continue support for outside digital tools like Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds even while building their own platform.
• Add D&D support and pledged D&D 2024 support to Foundry – a downloadable and self-hostable VTT.
• Released the 2024 D&D core books in print.
• Offered an non-exclusive license to third-party publishers on D&D Beyond instead of the draconian DMs Guild license.
• Committed to releasing the 2024 D&D rules in the 5.2 SRD in February 2025.

That's a lot of things they've done.

They're not perfect, obviously, speaking as one of the guys who got hosed trying to preview their book for them.

And no, really, we can never rebuild trust and nor should we. They're a 4 billion dollar company with a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders. For many of the executives in Hasbro we aren't customers. We are, as Cory Doctory likes to say, inconvenient gut flora.

But there are good folks working at WOTC who love the game and manage to get into positions of authority enough to make Ulysses Pacts they cannot take away later.