jerryrice4949
Legend
I liked Deep Magic too but I have always felt that KP subclasses are pretty hit or miss.
D&D (2024) Kobold Press posts 2024 DMG Hit Piece
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mamba
Legend
maybe that is the difference, I see this as KP and WotC, not as individual people…
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think it was a good move, it just doesn’t rise to the level where I give it more than a shoulder shrug, which is the same reaction I had to WotC missteps like the Pinkertons too
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
I was mostly talking about spells and types of magic.
Parmandur
Book-Friend, he/him
No, this article was written by an identifiable human person, Celeste Conowitch. The designer of the book she is actively hawking.
Parmandur
Book-Friend, he/him
Not as strong as their Monster design or Adventure material.
Belen
Legend
There is a strong subset of D&D players that only buy official content. They actively look down on or ignore 3PP. The KP article would not sway them at all.
I get that some folks that buy 3PP and buy both WOTC and KP may be swayed by the article either positively or negatively. You see that in this thread, however, the article is not going to hurt WOTC even if intended as a hitpiece. It will be largely ignored. I would imagine most people who like KP will not care either.
I would never even know it existed if not for this thread and I buy a lot of KP and WOTC stuff.
I mean, I like a good debate on ENWorld, which is why I am here. It is fun to debate and discuss. I just cannot see how this article is going to move the needle.
It is not a great article. I did find it informative and useful if a tad self-serving.
it is not the only thing a company does that one can find offensive
The OGL was a thousand times worse imo, even the Pinkertons are at least on par and I did not care about that one at all… heck, having to blur PHB pages in review videos is easily on par too, basically any time WotC does anything, it is worse
The proposed OGL that was never implemented after they listened to feedback doesn't bother me. On the other hand I find the Cybertruck kind of offensive (because it's rolling death for anyone it hits) but I'll never tell anyone they were stupid to buy one, even if I think they are.
Meanwhile it's not like the post we're discussing really bothers me, I just don't think it was a good idea to word it the way they did. Especially because they did have some good points.
mamba
Legend
and published on the Kobold website, that was not just her voicing her private opinion on her personal blog, it was a KP ‘release’
Right. There are GOOD POINTS here. But I hate it when companies rip other companies to make their point. I buy a lot of KP stuff, it's generally good (and often better than WotC stuff, esp monsters). But this really turns me off of a company.
I feel bad for Morrus that he can't ignore certain people like I can.
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