D&D (2024) Kobold Press posts 2024 DMG Hit Piece

[Mistwell]

or a defense from those guys that always defend any WotC action, but somehow if they are here they all find fault in this Kobold article…

I will ask again. If WOTC came out with an article about ToV similar to this one, and named Jeremy Crawford as the author, and then Jeremy Crawford publicly disavowed WOTC for butchering what he wrote so grossly he demanded his name be removed from the article, and then WOTC locked down comments on the article and never said anything about what just happened, how would you react?

Because seriously man, you're being deeply passive aggressive and disingenuous given the context we're discussing here.

 

[mamba]

how would you react?

the same as here, I do not care. I did not care about the Pinkertons (you will find me defending WotC on that), I do not care about this one.

Is it a good look, no, but it does not get more from me than a shoulder shrug

 

[Mistwell]

the same as here, I do not care. I did not care about the Pinkertons (you will find me defending WotC on that), I do not care about this one.

Is it a good look, no, but it does not get more from me than a shoulder shrug

You're on reply number what now for this topic you claim gets a shoulder shrug from you?

 

[Imaro]

WotC could have fit a lot of stuff in their new DMG if the Greyhawk material was in a separate book.

Just saying.

Yes but then there wouldn't have been an example setting for beginning DM's and no Greyhawk for those DM's (beginning and experienced) looking to pilfer ideas or run D&D without creating a world.

 

[mamba]

You're on reply number what now for this topic you claim gets a shoulder shrug from you?

the article does get the shrug, the posts here sometimes get replies, just like it was for the Pinkerton posts (where WotC sending them also got the shrug)

 

[Scribe]

Imagine the reaction if this were a WOTC article attacking ToV with Crawford's name on it and Crawford had to call out his own company for wrongly attaching his name to such a hit piece, and then WOTC removed his name and locked the thread with no further comment. Oh, the outrage would be endless.

I have reached a place in my life where I set expectations differently based on any number of variables.

Kobold Press gets a look, I laughed when I saw this, but its hardly a big deal to me.

Honestly if not for what Wizards did to MtG, I would likely hardly care about how they handle D&D, and I would have just moved on to Shadowdark/DCC/OSR of your choice.

But instead I will carry my spite and resentment over their desecration of a great (greatest?!) game (MtG) to my grave and any opportunity that presents itself to call Wizards out, must be taken.

 

[jerryrice4949]

I'd love to hear a similar sentiment from someone who hasn't and isn't planning to purchase the 5.5 DMG, or who has but isn't over the moon about it.

I thought it was tacky and I haven’t bought the 2024 PHB or DMG.

 

[jerryrice4949]

Barring clear evidence to the contrary, I am going to assume ToV is not seeing the level of sustained interest that they thought it would see and they're upset.

PARTICULARLY since they won't even name the author of this "review" and named one of their employees who didn't write it and she felt compelled to come out and tell them publicly to take her name off of it. That sort of cowardly stuff stinks of desperation.

Imagine the reaction if this were a WOTC article attacking ToV with Crawford's name on it and Crawford had to call out his own company for wrongly attaching his name to such a hit piece, and then WOTC removed his name and locked the thread with no further comment. Oh, the outrage would be endless.

There is definitely a double standard. But that is understandable. Just a lot more people with an axe to grind against WoTC looking for any opportunity to dredge up their list of greivances.

 

[Mistwell]

I have reached a place in my life where I set expectations differently based on any number of variables.

This is called a double standard. Your justification for it is the same justification for all double standards.

But instead I will carry my spite and resentment over their desecration of a great (greatest?!) game (MtG) to my grave and any opportunity that presents itself to call Wizards out, must be taken.

OK then. It's the Larry David approach to gaming!

 

[Piperken]

While I've noticed the Pinkertons episode has been brought up here, WotC has had a lot of issues in the MtG space just in the last decade; it's why those who overlap between it and D&D have expressed concern over where the rpg could be headed.