D&D (2024) Bastion - Missing Facilities (ie theres no diplomacy!)

[Tonguez]

I just had a look at the Bastion Rules on DnDBeyond and strangely enough Bastions dont have a "Embassy facility" which might be used if players wanted to involve themselves in diplomacy and political manouverings.
The rules allow Spying through the Pubs Research:Gather Information action and I suppose maybe the Theatre might be reskinned - Diplomacy is all Performance afterall (its Empower Action grants a bonus 1d6 to a D20 test).

So do you think a Embassy Facility needs to be added and what would it do?

What other Special Facilities do you think would be a great addition?

FYI These are the listed Special Facilities

Level	Special Facility	Prerequisite	Order
5	Arcane Study	Ability to use an Arcane Focus or a tool as a Spellcasting Focus	Craft
5	Armory	None	Trade
5	Barrack	None	Recruit
5	Garden	None	Harvest
5	Library	None	Research
5	Sanctuary	Ability to use a Holy Symbol or Druidic Focus as a Spellcasting Focus	Craft
5	Smithy	None	Craft
5	Storehouse	None	Trade
5	Workshop	None	Craft
9	Gaming Hall	None	Trade
9	Greenhouse	None	Harvest
9	Laboratory	None*	Craft
9	Sacristy	Ability to use a Holy Symbol or Druidic Focus as a Spellcasting Focus	Craft
9	Scriptorium	None*	Craft
9	Stable	None	Trade
9	Teleportation Circle	None	Recruit
9	Theater	None	Empower
9	Training Area	None	Empower
9	Trophy Room	None	Research
13	Archive	None	Research
13	Meditation Chamber	None	Empower
13	Menagerie	None	Recruit
13	Observatory	Ability to use a Spellcasting Focus	Empower
13	Pub	None	Research
13	Reliquary	Ability to use a Holy Symbol or Druidic Focus as a Spellcasting Focus	Harvest
17	Demiplane	Ability to use an Arcane Focus or a tool as a Spellcasting Focus	Empower
17	Guildhall	Expertise in a skill	Recruit
17	Sanctum	Ability to use a Holy Symbol or Druidic Focus as a Spellcasting Focus	Empower
17	War Room	Fighting Style feature or Unarmored Defense feature	Recruit

 

[Sulicius]

I don’t think a bastion needs an embassy. Bastions are more catered to a Stardew Valley like gameplay loop. Domain based play isn’t the intent of Bastions.

But could you add one? Sure!

 

[mellored]

Seems like it would be a bit too campaign specific to be in the PHB.

But I see no reason you couldn't add one to your specific campaign.

 

[Stormonu]

Oh, I'm planning to massively expand the Bastion rules with my own version of stuff - but you can quite get into the weeds.

Academy
Archive
Arena
Armory
Atrium
Ballroom
Bank
Barn
Bathhouse
Bedroom
Boathouse/Drydock
Campground
Carriage House
Cave
Courtroom
Corral/Pen
Catacombs
Courtyard
Demiplane
Dining Room
Dock
Dunjon
Divination Chamber
Farm/Orchard
Gaming Hall
Garden
Gatehouse
Guard Room
Graveyard
Grove
Guest House
Guild Hall
Greenhouse
Hospice
Hostel
Hive
Inn
Kitchen
Laboratory
Library
Lighthouse
Meditation Chamber
Menagerie/Kennel
Mill
Mine
Mausoleum/Tomb
Monument/Wonder
Nunnery/Cloister
Music Room
Oasis
Observatory
Office
Parlor
Pier
Pool
Portal
Prison
Pub
Reliquary
Sancristy
Sanctuary
Sanctum
Scriptorium
Slaughterhouse
Smithy
Smokehouse
Stable
Steam House
Storefront
Storehouse
Stage
Summoning Chamber
Teleportation Circle
Theater/Auditorium
Tower
Training Area
Trophy Room
Vault
Vehicle Station
War Room
Winery/Brewery
Workshop

 

[Minigiant]

Sebastian systems sounds like a perfect setup for WOTC and other third party publishers to print their own bastions to add to the system.

I have two civilization fans in my family and friends game and I will be adding the various districts to the system.

They already ask me how much production does each special facility gives.

Larry: It's a workshop. It gives you hammers.
Me: There are no production hammers in D&D.
Sky: But I am interested in a trade agreement with England.

 

[Tonguez]

Seems like it would be a bit too campaign specific to be in the PHB.

But I see no reason you couldn't add one to your specific campaign.

I am looking to do that, hence the question

and really I dont see how a generic 'embassy' is any more campaign specific than a Sacristry, Menagerie or Theatre. Indeed I can think of far more adventures that have PCs doing 'diplomatic stuff' than I can those involving a Sacristry.

 

[mellored]

I am looking to do that, hence the question

and really I dont see how a generic 'embassy' is any more campaign specific than a Sacristry, Menagerie or Theatre. Indeed I can think of far more adventures that have PCs doing 'diplomatic stuff' than I can those involving a Sacristry.

Diplomatic stuff requires there to be different cities to be Diplomatic too, and campaigns that require things to be diplomatic about. Doesn't work if you just want to run into a dungeon and kill a dragon.

Oh. How about if it includes the Sending spell? Then you can communicate and give orders remotely.

 

[Quickleaf]

Can’t wait to have my Pub when I get to 13th level.

Really can’t wait to have a stables with cool new mount opti—— sorry, I mean make gold by horse trading.

/sarcasm

 

[Tonguez]

Diplomatic stuff requires there to be different cities to be Diplomatic too, and campaigns that require things to be diplomatic about. Doesn't work if you just want to run into a dungeon and kill a dragon.

Oh. How about if it includes the Sending spell? Then you can communicate and give orders remotely.

Storm Kings Thunder, Phandelver, Ghost of Saltmarsh, Against the Giants all have diplomacy as an option without having to go into full Doman management

 

[Stormonu]

Storm Kings Thunder, Phandelver, Ghost of Saltmarsh, Against the Giants all have diplomacy as an option without having to go into full Doman management

I would expect that the Embassy would be something where after establishing initial contact, you might want a "fast travel/communication" option. In the Saltmarsh game I ran, the characters could have benefited from a Lizard Man Embassy to keep quick and open communication with the Lizard Folk as they organized an assault against their mutual enemy, without having to personally stomp up into the swamp to send a message.