mamba
Legend
I am not arguing against there being a starter set. The question is what should be in it, and in this case what should be in the DMG
D&D (2024) Kobold Press posts 2024 DMG Hit Piece
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SteveC
Doing the best imitation of myself
That is a really useful question to ask. It seems to me that it depends on what you think the on-ramp is going to be for new DMs. In 5.5E, they didn't think it was going to be a Starter Set, otherwise they would have had one at launch. It seems instead that the new DMG has taken advice that I'd expect to see in the Starter Set and put in in the DMG as a result. That was definitely a choice, not sure how good it is.
The upshot of it is that I really wish I could get the magic items and Bastion rules for 5.5E as their own product. I know that's unlikely to happen for Foundry, but it's what I'd prefer. I honestly don't know what else I'm going to want to look at from it. I guess I'm a weird case.
I suppose it will make creating the new Starter Set easier since a bunch of the material will already be in place.
abirdcall
(she/her)
I don't know if that is true.
The other starter sets still exist right? And the starter sets use simplified rules right?
Then I don't see a problem with using an older starting set then buying the 2024 books.
They probably didn't make a new starter set at launch because that is hard to do.
Older Beholder
Hero
The previous starter sets for 5E would still be fine for introducing new people that were thinking of picking up the revised rules (Or who had already done so).
Gradine
🏳️⚧️ (she/her) 🇵🇸
I mean, if I were being completely serious and sincere, maybe, sure. But mostly I was goofing
delericho
Legend
It's not really a good idea in general for producers to publish "reviews" of their direct competitors products. Even if "competitor" isn't really a realistic description given the relative sizes.
To an extent, Dragon mag got away with it back in the day by using an external reviewer (and not being afraid to occasionally savage TSR's own products). EN World likewise has a very bright line between this site and the publishing arm. But Kobold don't have that same delineation. Frankly, they'd have been better off saying nothing.
To an extent, Dragon mag got away with it back in the day by using an external reviewer (and not being afraid to occasionally savage TSR's own products). EN World likewise has a very bright line between this site and the publishing arm. But Kobold don't have that same delineation. Frankly, they'd have been better off saying nothing.
Same for me. If they want to make the DMG the Intro To DMing book that's fine by me, I'm already using A5E for most of my games- but I do like the Bastion rules as a foundation to build on.
The 2024 DMG just isn't a book targeted at experienced DMs. Both A5E and ToV books really are superior in that respect.
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
I will say that there is definitely material in the bastion I could adapt for my own game. It's too bad they removed the ala carte option from D&D Beyond. I would buy the bastion rules by themselves if I could.
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Then take out the comment about sufficiency. A few sidebars still means that they are effectively gone. A few sidebars does not a section on optional rules make.
Imaro
Legend
Again there's a difference between none and not as many as the previous version. You don't know how many remain so you are effectively making statements about something you have no knowledge of... but please continue to tell me about the DMG you haven't read if you want.
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