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[Parmandur]

I don’t believe he was keen on the Irish either. Are you familiar with Yeat’s attempt to collect folk tales around the 1920s, and just how utterly different they are to anything Tolkien?

More just not on his radar: his Welsh influence, on the other hand, is fairly significant, particularly on Sindarin as a language.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

More just not on his radar: his Welsh influence, on the other hand, is fairly significant, particularly on Sindarin as a language.

It’s kind of unlikely he wouldn’t have been exposed to W B Yeats. His friend C S Lewis was born in Ireland, and there is more of that kind of influence on Narnia.

 

[Cadence]

I don’t believe he was keen on the Irish either. Are you familiar with Yeat’s attempt to collect folk tales around the 1920s, and just how utterly different they are to anything Tolkien?

Sent me off googling... which means I'm glad the the semester is over and I'm otherwise getting caught up on work:

J.R.R Tolkien And Ireland

J.R.R Tolkien And Ireland Intoduction My first experience of the works of J.R.R. Tolkien was at the age of ten or eleven and through the imaginative classes of a teacher whose name has long since l…

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[Paul Farquhar]

Sent me off googling... which means I'm glad the the semester is over and I'm otherwise getting caught up on work:

J.R.R Tolkien And Ireland

J.R.R Tolkien And Ireland Intoduction My first experience of the works of J.R.R. Tolkien was at the age of ten or eleven and through the imaginative classes of a teacher whose name has long since l…

ansionnachfionn.com

One thing that strikes me is by "English" Tolkien really means the Anglo-Norman south east. There is plenty of folklore, with hobs, boggarts and the like in the Celtic/Scandinavian north, such as my native Lancashire.

 

[Parmandur]

One thing that strikes me is by "English" Tolkien really means the Anglo-Norman south east. There is plenty of folklore, with hobs, boggarts and the like in the Celtic/Scandinavian north, such as my native Lancashire.

No, Tolkien hated all things Norman: by "English" he meant the Midlands. No accident he was a major expert on the Pearl/Gawande Poet. Hence also the stronger Welsh elements in Middle Earth, compared to Irish.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

No, Tolkien hated all things Norman: by "English" he meant the Midlands. No accident he was a major expert on the Pearl/Gawande Poet. Hence also the stronger Welsh elements in Middle Earth, compared to Irish.

I guess this is a better derail than the perennial canon thing.

 

[Parmandur]

I guess this is a better derail than the perennial canon thing.

That's just boring, Tolkien is evergreen.

 

[Remathilis]

A reasonable concern. These are the kinds of changes from 5.0 to 5.5 that made me wish they had called out 5.5 as a separate edition, primarily so it would be easier for players and publishers to keep with 5.0 if they wanted.

And that's exactly why they didn't call it 6e or 5 5.

 

[Remathilis]

I understand where you're coming from but you and I are just not going to agree on this.

You don't want people to see your setting as an ongoing story? Don't present it as one. Far too late for that IMO for everything but Eberron.

WotC ALMOST advanced a metaplot and people were up and arms and it.

Spoiler

"Athas was going to be destroyed in the Spelljammer module and one of the places you visit as it's literally in it's last days. They changed it to Doomspace at the last minute. But we almost had a canon destroyed Dark Sun. Isn't metaplot wonderful? "

 

[Paul Farquhar]

No, Tolkien hated all things Norman: by "English" he meant the Midlands.

The midlands isn't the North.

And his social class made him not part of the industrial midlands. A Birmingham accent he did not have. And by Anglo-Saxon and Norman he meant the south east. Where Oxford is.

Some mention should also be made of Cornwall, which is Celtic, with close cultural ties to Brittany. These days commonly associated with pixies.