D&D (2024) Githzerai Psion? Thri-kreen Psion? Where's My Psion?

If they like it, why wouldn't they buy it? People buy things that they like.

They are buying 5.5e, despite it not changing a whole heck of a lot. They'd buy a completely new psion class if they liked it.
There are PLENTY of stuff I like I wouldn't or don't spend money not put on the top of my buying list.

Like I like the concept of magical schools but I think Strixhaven was too married to MTG color wheel and not close enough to D&D's magic system and thus flavor wise too tame. It should be the Arcane/Divine/Primal/Dark/Military or Nobles/Church/Hippies/Poors/Occult with rival schools, evil teachers, or a external threat pushed as the drive to action into a dungeon.

But that's beside the point. There are levels of like. And some concepts of psions are liked but not enough to sell a book. Not anymore. Not until a major psionic media outside the D&D takes the stage
 

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What people? People who were 1 year old last time psionics was part of D&D? I don't think so. The word has lost any meaning. Star Wars has space magic. Dune has space magic. Mass Effect has space magic. But no one uses the word "psionics". It's a relic of the 70s. "Psychic" at least retains some meaning.

Fighting and wizarding are all over children's fiction, and even more so in the video games they play. Some have clerics(priests) too, but it's losing traction a bit. If you were to come up with something modelled on a currently popular video game, then you might have something that "people" - the people you want to sell to - like.
Hey, remember how I showed you the cover of that book I wrote?

That was my first book. Only had 68 pages, half the size of a more traditional release. It was also my first Kickstarter. No one had a damned clue who I was or am. I'm such a tiny insignificant nothing of a content creator in the broader world.

It's sold over 1600 copies. With an advertising budget of $-60. I didn't even use Backerkit or some other booster product to get more eyes on it. It's the single most purchased A5e 3rd party product and I'm competing against the Manual of Adventurous Resources Complete by Purple Martin Games and other absolutely fantastic writers and designers in a very small space.

My book competes favorably against people who wrote the Official Core Rulebooks for the same system. That is INSANE to me. But people are so hungry for Psionics they're still buying my book and trying to convince their 5e and ToV DMs to let them play the Esper.

I'm not kidding. I get shoutouts in threads, here, but I also get random messages on Discord or DMs here or Twitter (though I deleted my tweets and locked that account down in November) of people who love psionics, love the class, and ask for insights or advice. On the 3rd Party Publisher Discord we chill in, a new developer who joined just recently specifically asked if I'd be okay with them using the Esper as a core component of the campaign setting they're trying to make.

Ever heard of KibblesTasty? Probably not, he's also a small time publisher though -way- better known than me. He raised $192k on Kickstarter with his material including a Psion.

You know what the most requested setting is in every WotC Survey? Dark Sun. Hell, Kyle Brink got asked about Dark Sun in a recent interview because the setting is so popular (and psionics-centric) that the interviewer couldn't -not- ask, even though he knew the answer in advance.

Most requested class? Psion. Well. Okay. Usually it's fighting against a proper Gish between different polls, but it's up there!

It was invented in the 60s, was popular in the 70s, and has been fading ever since.

Some neologisms become part of the language, others fade into obscurity.

Young people know about psionics as a concept. It didn't vanish just because WotC hasn't released an official full class or book focused on it. And the fact that WotC outright used the term "Psionic" to refer to the subclasses in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything means that even the most "Under a Rock" 5e player who was born after 2012 has at least some awareness that Psionics are a thing because WotC put it into a book.

We get it. You don't deal much with people who think of psionics as "A Thing" and you and the people around you tend to keep your fantasy very Tolkien. Your experiences are not universal.
 

Do you know what word is supplanting it then?
Words don't always fall out of use because something else replaces them. The fall out of use because they are no longer relevant, specifically in this case because the pseudoscience it was based around has been thoroughly debunked.

But the issue isn't that D&D can't use the word, the issue is that it needs to explain what it is from scratch, because it will not have any implied meaning for most of WotC's target market. And no one seems to be willing our able to do that in a way that is not self-referential and makes it clear how it differs from regular magic.
 

Words don't always fall out of use because something else replaces them. The fall out of use because they are no longer relevant, specifically in this case because the pseudoscience it was based around has been thoroughly debunked.

But the issue isn't that D&D can't use the word, the issue is that it needs to explain what it is from scratch, because it will not have any implied meaning for most of WotC's target market. And no one seems to be willing our able to do that in a way that is not self-referential and makes it clear how it differs from regular magic.
Psionics was debunked in RL as a form of pseudoscience. But RPGs can have it where the pseudoscience is very real and is considered a science. In D&D, the existence of magic and deities are actively portrayed as something real whenever we role-play a character in a fantasy setting.
 

Psionics was debunked in RL as a form of pseudoscience. But RPGs can have it where the pseudoscience is very real and is considered a science. In D&D, the existence of magic and deities are actively portrayed as something real whenever we role-play a character in a fantasy setting.
Sure, no one has an issue with magic being real, or religion for that matter. But something that is like magic but not? Not believed in any more. It’s a midiclorian issue. People prefer the Force to be just magic.
 


So why do you personally have an issue with psionics when the rest of us don't?
I have an issue with people's refusal to explain what it is for the benefit of anyone who is not trapped in a 1970s geek culture bubble.

I'm not against psionics. I'm just trying to tell people the world has moved on, which means they need to start explaining it from scratch, not relying on fading tropes.
 

Which is my point. You cannot just stick the word “psionics” on the cover and expect people to know what its about. It needs to be EXPLAINED. Which means you need to stop being so effing woolly about it.

Calling your book something like “Secrets of the Far Realms” would be a better title than “Psionics Handbook”, since the Far Realms is mentioned pretty often in modern D&D.
could work but beyond packaging it with more stuff the specifics do not matter
 

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