D&D General Matt Colville on the “Forever DM”

[darjr]

Listening to smart decent people whom you disagree with is cool.

Don't let nobody tell you different

 

[Jaiken]

The opportunity has never presented itself for me to be a player in 5e 2014. Seems players are always available when I Dungeon Master games.

 

[Maxperson]

It’s a good video with good advice, most of which I already know, but it wasn’t meant for folks like me or many of the folks I suspect are going to post here.

Yeah, I really like his videos. Mostly for the validation of how I do things.

 

[darjr]

 

[mamba]

There definitely is a divisive presentation in these videos with an emphasis that the topic at hand is the greatest that’s ever faced humanity. Its pretty grating I’m surprised anybody can listen to it once let alone regularly.

the 'greatest topic ever' must be a you thing, I am not getting that at all, all I am getting is enthusiasm for TTRPGs

 

[tetrasodium]

It would be nice if a Matt Colville video could be shared even once on here without it becoming about how people don’t like him or his delivery, and focusing on the topic instead, which plenty of people also do, it is just that it seem pointless that the same people always come in to say how they don’t like it - doesn’t that get boring?

I am not even talking about treating it like a + thread because there is plenty to disagree without getting hung up on whether you can “stand to listen”. If you can’t stand to listen then why even participate since you aren’t informed?

It's easier to tone police him or the video than it is to provide a positive defense for toxic player behavior or explain why we should always just declare the gm to be unreasonable until proven otherwise by an impossible standard.

Heck, by not transcribing the video it became more difficult for some folks to cherry pick a sentence or two they could criticize after it has been stripped of context.

 

[Theory of Games]

Three months until D&D 4.5 Draw Steel releases

 

[SteveC]

It would be nice if a Matt Colville video could be shared even once on here without it becoming about how people don’t like him or his delivery, and focusing on the topic instead, which plenty of people also do, it is just that it seem pointless that the same people always come in to say how they don’t like it - doesn’t that get boring?

I find it super tiring as well. I've said it before but Matt does an excellent job of representing someone from a particular time and place. Since that is close to where I come from too, I find what he talks about and how he does so fun and interesting. But I can also see that if you come from a different place, it might not be. And fair enough.

What I'd just like to see, and I say this about content I don't enjoy or am really meh about too, is direct yourself to the content of what's provided. I haven't really seen someone saying his point is a bad or wrong one, but rather how he's presenting it. To that I say, oh, okay ... and move on to discussing what he says.

There are a ton of RPG personalities out there, and some of them I just can't stand. They might love exactly the same playstyle as I do and have great points to make, but if they are as annoying and frustrating as some comments about Matt are, I wouldn't know because I don't want to put myself through it. This was an interesting video that made me think about times where I was that "forever DM" ... and it made me realize I really wasn't, since I was having just as much fun as the players the whole time.

 

[Clint_L]

It’s cute that you think that would make a difference.

But anyway, it is not like I was complaining about just this thread or only threads I have posted, and while Matt Colville videos are the perfect example of this happening, it is not limited to them, but just tired of the fairly immature need to enter conversations for no other reason to say you don’t like the thing to begin with. But then again that behavior is pretty common on these boards (and I have probably been guilty of it too at some point, but I cringe to think I have).

I know I can’t control what people post about but jeez.

So hold on.

Now those who express the opinion, which seems fairly widespread, that his videos are hard to watch because of how Colville communicates are "immature"? I added my thoughts specifically because one person mentioned that their wife doesn't like listening to him because he comes off as angry, another poster challenged that, and I posted, I think quite respectfully, that I understand where she is coming from. I even mentioned my personal context to emphasize that this is just one person's perspective.

If you don't want people to express feelings that are different from yours, you should definitely make it a + thread and stipulate the conditions up front. But if you think that reacting to different perspectives with insults and condescension ("cute" and "immature") is appropriate, then I suppose that we have a different point of view.

 

[kayakingpoodle]

So hold on.

Now those who express the opinion, which seems fairly widespread, that his videos are hard to watch because of how Colville communicates are "immature"? I added my thoughts specifically because one person mentioned that their wife doesn't like listening to him because he comes off as angry, another poster challenged that, and I posted, I think quite respectfully, that I understand where she is coming from. I even mentioned my personal context to emphasize that this is just one person's perspective.

If you don't want people to express feelings that are different from yours, you should definitely make it a + thread and stipulate the conditions up front. But if you think that reacting to different perspectives with insults and condescension ("cute" and "immature") is appropriate, then I suppose that we have a different point of view.

Considering to OP couches the thread as a discussion on the entertainment value of the video and nothing else, the thread is right on track.