Most influential RPG

[Piperken]

Into the Odd seems cool, but what would you say it's influenced specifically? To me superficially it seems more representative of trends that started before it than influential, but that might just be me.

I'm not as versed on indie ttrpg development, but my understanding is that that game has been iterated off of about as much as PbtA (system) has (Cairn being a recognized one. Collectively they're just known or referred to as Odd-likes). :3

 

[mamba]

This is a pretty arbitrary line to draw. At a certain point, no one is innovating after the first ancient who rolled knucklebones to create a random result in a game.

maybe, but OSRIC does not clear that hurdle, however low I set it

If OSRIC hadn't existed, today's market would look markedly different. That it essentially wove classic designs back into the modern space doesn't make it any less influential than the Rolling Stones and other British Invasion bands of the 1960s that were "only" making American blues music more widely popular than they were.

agreed, I just do not see it as innovating anything, so I would not put it on my list

But I am always happy to say that Ryan Dancey is one of the most important figures in the ttrpg space, which feels to me to be a weirdly minority position. I think the 3E SRD and the OGL may be one of the most important inflection points in the history of the industry -- moreso than probably 99% of the games mentioned in this thread.

agreed here too, Ryan and the OGL had a huge impact, OSRIC and everything it kicked off is only a part of that impact

 

[Reynard]

maybe, but OSRIC does not clear that hurdle, however low I set it


agreed, I just do not see it as innovating anything, so I would not put it on my list


agreed here too, Ryan and the OGL had a huge impact, OSRIC and everything it kicked off is only a part of that impact

Innovation isn't just about mechanics. RPGs are an industry, so creating new venues of development and sale are Innovation too.

 

[mamba]

Innovation isn't just about mechanics. RPGs are an industry, so creating new venues of development and sale are Innovation too.

you can choose whatever criteria you want for 'influential', the OP used

Those game that were precursors and lead the rpg design through the history.

and so did I. OSRIC does not qualify under that criteria

 

[Reynard]

you can choose whatever criteria you want for 'influential', the OP used

and so did I. OSRIC does not qualify under that criteria

Yes, it does. There is a HUGE amount of design happening in the OSR space, and that space starts with OSRIC.

 

[mamba]

Yes, it does. There is a HUGE amount of design happening in the OSR space, and that space starts with OSRIC.

but OSRIC did not introduce that design, nor is it necessarily even the starting point for those OSR games. If you think that there is a lot of design happening, nominate the OSR games that have that design (assuming it proliferated)

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

but OSRIC did not introduce that design, nor is it necessarily even the starting point for those OSR games. If you think that there is a lot of design happening, nominate the OSR games that have that design (assuming it proliferated)

And thus we return to Mork Borg!

 

[mamba]

And thus we return to Mork Borg!

what is it the design innovation it introduced and spread? Obviously there are several Borgs around now, so there probably is something... I am not familiar with them, the layout / style makes me avoid Mork Borg / * Borgs

 

[Scribe]

what is it the design innovation it introduced and spread?

the layout / style

I would say thats a big part of it. The tone, feel, look. The layout and style. It has something visceral about it.

 

[Reynard]

but OSRIC did not introduce that design, nor is it necessarily even the starting point for those OSR games. If you think that there is a lot of design happening, nominate the OSR games that have that design (assuming it proliferated)

It is totally fine that you have decided to.use personal preference based definitions that don't reflect how things actually develop. Just don't expect other people to accept them.