D&D General What version of D&D are you playing?

[AlViking]

Given how people caterwauled about Tasha's being 5.5e before we got actual 5.5e?

No, they did not include "every publication some people considered different enough to be considered a significant" jump.

It don't see any indication of edition bias. I don't think 2e's Player's Options was worthy of being called out as a different edition either, obviously the OP did. It's not about edition wars.

 

[kermit4karate]

As of today, this survey accounts for approximately .001% of all people playing D&D and has a significant selection bias and is pretty meaningless. Interesting.

Amazon probably sells more copies of the 2024 books every hour than there are total votes on this poll.

 

[payn]

Very much wish I could vote 4e, but the correct answer is 5.5e.

I understand that the "4e Essentials" line is there because folks think it's different....I just wish people would stop feeding that perspective.

Well the 2024 update isn’t a half edition but folks gonna call it how they see it.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I think any and all surveys on this site are basically meaningless when looking at broader trends.

I don't really care what game other people play while also acknowledging that there is a significant bias on this forum for several reasons. On the other hand $50-150 will get a couple a meal at a good restaurant nowadays if you don't splurge on wine, D&D is still an incredibly cheap hobby for the hours of enjoyment I and my players get out of it. Especially because most of my players just use my DndBeyond account and never spend a dime on books.

I don't care either, but unless you're a brand new player your spending that money for revised versions of books you already have. I can't speak for others, but I'm not spending that money on entertainment unless I really think it'll be worth it. Maybe you and I are in different financial situations; I talk about the money for a reason, and (anecdotal) evidence suggests I'm not alone. And D&D Beyond isn't the right choice for everybody. Yet another subscription service, you know?

 

[Micah Sweet]

4e basic and essentialvare 2 separate games. They even wiped out core on their online stuff(I forgot what it was called). You couldn't run a magic missile build from core. And certain classes had powers nerfed and changed. Definitely a half edition there.

4e was throwing errata around across the board practically since day 1. It's what they did, and Essentials just had another round of it, mixed with a bunch of new player options. I've often said that 4e's phantom corebook was, "The Complete Errata Handbook".

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Well the 2024 update isn’t a half edition but folks gonna call it how they see it.

And I personally believe that that is precisely what it is. It redesigned most classes, changed when you get class features, completely rewrote feats, rewrote or modified several spells, you don't get ability scores from race, etc.

The rewriting of species and background has been a pretty annoying issue, actually, because every VTT I've used (only three, admittedly, but still) will simply screw you over if you try to run a 5.0 background but a 5.5e species. You literally just...never get the chance to have the extra points.

Given that that means you actually do need conversion stuff and cannot simply mix rules components, I don't see how that can be anything smaller than what 3rd edition did, what with re-writing multiple classes, changing spell levels and access, and rewriting the wording of various spells to close known loopholes.

If "2024" 5e isn't different enough to be 5.5e, then the edition that gave us the term ".5e" wasn't big enough to be 3.5e.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I never said one way or another whether more people have adapted 2024 vs 2014 (or any other edition), all I said was that we can't draw any broader conclusion. Surveys on this forum are not representative of the broader public.

On the other hand this response is another clear indication of clear and persistent bias that I see on multiple threads. Having had a couple of responses implying that I'm somehow biased, it's clear to me why many people don't acknowledge if they happen to like things like the new version. There's always those people waiting to pounce and call anyone who supports the new edition somehow a drone who blindly accept whatever WOTC produces. Can't possibly be that I thought that after a decade there needed to be a bit of an upgrade, I must think WOTC is my benevolent friend! Give me a break.

Depends on whether or not one considers 5.5 to really be an upgrade. You know where I stand. That's not an assumption I think is valid to make, even if I'm not speaking personally.

 

[AlViking]

I don't care either, but unless you're a brand new player your spending that money for revised versions of books already have. I can't speak for others, but I'm not spending that money on entertainment unless I really think it'll be worth it. Maybe you and I are in different financial situations; I talk about the money for a reason, and (anecdotal) evidence suggests I'm not alone. And D&D Beyond isn't the right choice for everybody. Yet another subscription service, you know?

Did I say you or anyone else should change editions? Or choose to use DndBeyond?

Meanwhile I had a meal at a nice restaurant while on vacation and the cost for a single meal was over a hundred dollars. It reminded why I almost never eat out. D&D is expensive for some people but buying all of the core books is cheaper than going to the movies with your friends. I don't go to movies often either.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Did I say you or anyone else should change editions? Or choose to use DndBeyond?

Meanwhile I had a meal at a nice restaurant while on vacation and the cost for a single meal was over a hundred dollars. It reminded why I almost never eat out. D&D is expensive for some people but buying all of the core books is cheaper than going to the movies with your friends. I don't go to movies often either.

Usually IME you're not personally paying for all your friends.

 

[payn]

And I personally believe that that is precisely what it is. It redesigned most classes, changed when you get class features, completely rewrote feats, rewrote or modified several spells, you don't get ability scores from race, etc.

The rewriting of species and background has been a pretty annoying issue, actually, because every VTT I've used (only three, admittedly, but still) will simply screw you over if you try to run a 5.0 background but a 5.5e species. You literally just...never get the chance to have the extra points.

Given that that means you actually do need conversion stuff and cannot simply mix rules components, I don't see how that can be anything smaller than what 3rd edition did, what with re-writing multiple classes, changing spell levels and access, and rewriting the wording of various spells to close known loopholes.

If "2024" 5e isn't different enough to be 5.5e, then the edition that gave us the term ".5e" wasn't big enough to be 3.5e.

If Essentials wasnt any different, then why did it have a different name? We can play this game all day.