D&D General What version of D&D are you playing?

[kermit4karate]

ENWorld may only represent a tiny percent of D&D players, but it tends to be a "hard core" group of players.

So the fact that only 45% are playing 2024 should be very telling.

And if I read the defensive tone of your response correctly, just remember that WoTC is a business, they are not your dear friend...

There are only 43 votes for 2024 representing a product that sells millions.... Somehow that does not feel like a poll on which we should base anything.

 

[AlViking]

Usually IME you're not personally paying for all your friends.

If the cost of books and/or DndBeyond was an issue for someone's game I was playing in I would happily chip in.

 

[Micah Sweet]

If the cost of books and/or DndBeyond was an issue for someone's game I was playing in I would happily chip in.

Good deal. Not common IME. You're buying books after all. At the end of the day they're generally going to live at someone's house, usually the GM's.

 

[kermit4karate]

And I personally believe that that is precisely what it is. It redesigned most classes, changed when you get class features, completely rewrote feats, rewrote or modified several spells, you don't get ability scores from race, etc.

The rewriting of species and background has been a pretty annoying issue, actually, because every VTT I've used (only three, admittedly, but still) will simply screw you over if you try to run a 5.0 background but a 5.5e species. You literally just...never get the chance to have the extra points.

Given that that means you actually do need conversion stuff and cannot simply mix rules components, I don't see how that can be anything smaller than what 3rd edition did, what with re-writing multiple classes, changing spell levels and access, and rewriting the wording of various spells to close known loopholes.

If "2024" 5e isn't different enough to be 5.5e, then the edition that gave us the term ".5e" wasn't big enough to be 3.5e.

I agree. I really like 2024, but you can dang well bet I ignore a few really annoying things in it, like the ones you mentioned.

Luckily, that only took me about 30 seconds to figure out, and I'm not gonna let a one-time investment of 30 seconds ruin an otherwise good version.

Some VTTs are inferior to pen & paper in this way. They make it a little tougher to ignore the small number of rules I absolutely abhor in an otherwise great game for me.

 

[kermit4karate]

Did I say you or anyone else should change editions? Or choose to use DndBeyond?

Meanwhile I had a meal at a nice restaurant while on vacation and the cost for a single meal was over a hundred dollars. It reminded why I almost never eat out. D&D is expensive for some people but buying all of the core books is cheaper than going to the movies with your friends. I don't go to movies often either.

A movie is about $20 per adult ticket where I live. Throwing in a medium popcorn and a drink adds another $15.

Unless you splurge on the Raisinets it's cheaper than buying one of the 2024 D&D core books.

I hear you though. Everything is insanely expensive now.

I feel like TTRPG game prices have gotten out of control expensive since the pandemic. If I were making a game now, I'd probably make a small black-and-white book like the Shadowdark hardcover to keep my production costs down.

 

[Umbran]

At the moment, none. The D&D games I was running and playing have all completed.

In the near-ish future? I wouldn't expect to run anything prior to 5e except as a nostalgic one-shot. The couple of friends who have talked about running D&D I would not expect to go back prior to 5e for their rules.

 

[AlViking]

A movie is about $20 per adult ticket where I live. Throwing in a medium popcorn and a drink adds another $15.

Unless you splurge on the Raisinets it's cheaper than buying one of the 2024 D&D core books.

I hear you though. Everything is insanely expensive now.

I feel like TTRPG game prices have gotten out of control expensive since the pandemic. If I were making a game now, I'd probably make a small black-and-white book like the Shadowdark hardcover to keep my production costs down.

So it's $70 for a couple, if you have 3 kids you've now spent enough to buy the books on amazon. I just got invited to play the Frosthaven board game, it costs $250. Meanwhile if you adjust for inflation, the core books are cheaper than ever. I get it if people don't have the budget to play but cost is relative to what we spend on entertainment, if you want a truly expensive hobby pick up golfing. For me the 2024 D&D rules and DndBeyond is worth it and golf is not, I just can't get past that darn windmill. Gets me every time.

 

[mamba]

As of today, this survey accounts for approximately .001% of all people playing D&D and has a significant selection bias and is pretty meaningless. Interesting.

it certainly is a small fraction of all players, but I doubt that the general adoption rate is that far away from the 50% mark. Not everyone that will switch has already switched and not everyone playing 2014 will switch to 2024 either

 

[mamba]

I never said one way or another whether more people have adapted 2024 vs 2014

no, you did not, but it sure sounds like they interpreted it correctly…

Can’t possibly be that I thought that after a decade there needed to be a bit of an upgrade, I must think WOTC is my benevolent friend! Give me a break.

oh, I agree, there should have been an upgrade, my problem is that I do not see 2024 as much of an upgrade and worse in some parts

The big upgrades were all thrown away halfway through the playtest

 

[payn]

A movie is about $20 per adult ticket where I live. Throwing in a medium popcorn and a drink adds another $15.

Unless you splurge on the Raisinets it's cheaper than buying one of the 2024 D&D core books.

I hear you though. Everything is insanely expensive now.

I feel like TTRPG game prices have gotten out of control expensive since the pandemic. If I were making a game now, I'd probably make a small black-and-white book like the Shadowdark hardcover to keep my production costs down.

I wouldnt say out of control at all. RPGs are...checks notes to confirm...greatly cheaper than any other hobby I have. We also have instances where folks can barely make careers out of working in the industry and a large reason is folks balk at 45-75 bucks for a hardcover text with full color images and artwork. Never mind that paying that for a single movie and bucket of popcorn nets you 2-3 hours where this game book will get you 100's of hours or more.