D&D 5E (2024) Is the FR Bundle + 2024 Core combining to turn 5.24e into Advanced 5e?

[Henadic Theologian]

So in addition to new mechanics like Bastions in the the Core, the FR books are addition Circle Magic including 19 spells with special CM effects, 8 Factions, with I think Faction Reputation, a Piety System adapted for FR, Epic Chosen Feats, some Subclasses, like Oath of the Genie that can really open up a new Playstation for a class, unique mechanics for each of Calimshan, Icewind Dale, Moonshaes, Dalelands, Baldur's Gate, regional Bastion Mechanics, Lorwyn-Shadowmoore's unique mechanics, playable Vampire mechanics in Book of Hunger, time Travel Mechanics and Unique (I think) Netherese Mechanics in fall of Netheril and who knows what else, did I forget anything?

I love it, but its going to radically increase complexity of Forgotten Realms D&D games. Or is that the point, that FR's thing, that its more complex and epic mechanically and depth and bredth of lore wise compared to other settings, with other settings have more focused mechanics including some of or all of the core?

 

[Zardnaar]

Well its opt in but yes 5.5 is leaning more towards 3.5/4E levels of complexity

 

[Parmandur]

Not really, though it is a fullsoke expansion.

 

[Scribe]

Or is that the point, that FR's thing

No, FRs thing is being a kitchen sink soup setting.

 

[TiQuinn]

As far as I can see they’re all optional with some being more DM options than player options.

 

[Parmandur]

As far as I can see they’re all optional with some being more DM options than player options.

It does double the number of Backgrounds from the PHB...the Eberron book will make it triple.

 

[TiQuinn]

It does double the number of Backgrounds from the PHB...the Eberron book will make it triple.

But is adding Backgrounds really adding that much complexity? Is it any different from expanding options via an Everything guide, in other words?

 

[Parmandur]

But is adding Backgrounds really adding that much complexity? Is it any different from expanding options via an Everything guide, in other words?

Complexity, nah, but it is a significant escalation of possible characters directly out of the box. Even considering that Backgrounds are pretty easy to homebrew, the new Feats that come with them are definitely amping up tge options faster than 2014 did.

 

[Zardnaar]

But is adding Backgrounds really adding that much complexity? Is it any different from expanding options via an Everything guide, in other words?

It things like weapon masteries, no optional feats, minis going from nice to have to semi needed.

 

[TiQuinn]

It things like weapon masteries, no optional feats, minis going from nice to have to semi needed.

2024 is more complex than 2014 but I guess I don’t see the Forgotten Realms stuff as making it that much more complex, any more than any other option one took from 2014 DMG or one of the Everything guides made the 2014 D&D more complex.