D&D General Refresher Course D&D Edition Numbers. AKA Modern D&D Is a Self Inflicted Problem.

[GrimCo]

I font have any nostalgia for 3.0, 3.5 or Pathfinder in terms of playing them again.

I jump in ocasionally in PF1 game for session or two. Would jump for couple of sessions of 3.5 also. It's fun, from player side. There's no chance in hell i would run either of those as a DM these days.

But damn they had some great adventures, concept and material.

Between 3, 3.5 and PF1, even without 3PP, there is abundance of material, from settings, to player options, to adventures. If we take it as single game edition, it spans 19 years of published materials.

3.5 and PF are too focused on gridded minis combat, IMO.

Maybe. It's highly table dependent. Most people i know played both ToTM. Grids and minis were rare. At best, sometimes people would approximate positions using dice or coins (without grid). In personal experience, using grid and minis slowed down combat.

 

[VHawkwinter]

Maybe. It's highly table dependent. Most people i know played both ToTM. Grids and minis were rare.

Yeah, you can run both without minis, but they did make the mechanics more mini focused than they were in 3.0

At best, sometimes people would approximate positions using dice or coins (without grid).

Fair. We did that with a whiteboard sometimes when I was running PF1.

In personal experience, using grid and minis slowed down combat.

I am inclined to agree. Slowed it down a fair bit and often with no real benefit.

 

[VHawkwinter]

Played them haven't even seen them.

Other RPGs exist????!!!!!

Some of them are pretty great, too!

(Good job on that, excellent delivery).

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Other RPGs exist????!!!!!

No, they are just demons and devils trying to tempt you and lead you away from what is good and holy. Beware their temptations, their false promises of deeper roleplaying experiences, or more tactical combat (or less), or faster, elegant gameplay, evocative settings or whatever. The worst of them will even force you to abandon your d20!

 

[Zardnaar]

No, they are just demons and devils trying to tempt you and lead you away from what is good and holy. Beware their temptations, their false promises of deeper roleplaying experiences, or more tactical combat (or less), or faster, elegant gameplay, evocative settings or whatever. The worst of them will even force you to abandon your d20!

Think im safe. Colonial isolation. Blame the British.

 

[VHawkwinter]

Think im safe. Colonial isolation. Blame the British.

On the off-chance you've really never heard of the other non-D&D-or-Pathfimder RPGs I mentioned (seemed very unlikely for someone who had tried all the D&D Editions), they're probably all still available on DrivethruRPG and Warehouse23 in PDF.

i don't know which one I mentioned I would say is most up your alley though. Maybe Rolemaster 4e? Or perhaps Mongoose' Rune-quest 2 (Which they rebranded as "Legend" and rereleased after they lost the RQ license - same mechanics).