D&D General AI Art for D&D: Experiments

[Morrus]

Humans survived for thousands of years without fire...

That’s a a fun and pithy sound bite (well done!), but it’s fundamental misunderstanding of the point.

 

[Cergorach]

That’s a a fun and pithy sound bite (well done!)...

Why thank you! * bows *

...but it’s fundamental misunderstanding of the point.

I don't think so.

I think the point was that some indie publishers were able to produce some illustrations without relying on AI generation. But that's imho misrepresenting the situation now. Many indies operating today wouldn't have been able to operate 40 years ago, including ENworld Publishing.

Just as DTP software suddenly allowed a far smaller operation to produce product. The Internet allowed even smaller operations to reach a larger audience. Services like POD or online storefronts allow even smaller operations to sell their goods. Things like AI allow even smaller operations to produce above their previous levels. This is called advancement, just like fire was advancement. Now, fire we can't live without anymore, but I have my doubts that the current generative AI and LLM solutions will ever rise to the same levels... Similar things were said decades ago about computers, the Internet, mobile phones, and smartphones. Very few people, especially younger people, can imagine their lives without those. In the same way that 25 years ago folks were skeptical about search engines and specifically Google search, how many would operate now on the Internet without googling?

 

[Morrus]

I don't think so.

I think the point was that some indie publishers were able to produce some illustrations without relying on AI generation.

That was a fact germaine to the point, but no, that isn't the point. So yes, you have fundamentally misunderstood the point. But I'm not her to convert AI stans--I know that is impossible, and attempting to do so is a waste of my time and energy--I'm speaking more to those reading this. Hopefully, they got the point!

 

[Lanefan]

That's what Kickstarters were for- raising money to create something that you couldn't afford to without it. Crowdfunding a project.

The problem with that model is the moment you start taking and spending other people's money your project becomes a time-sensitive employment-like commitment rather than a hobby or a labour of love that you can do (or not do) at your own pace.

No thanks.

 

[Morrus]

The problem with that model is the moment you start taking and spending other people's money your project becomes a time-sensitive employment-like commitment rather than a hobby or a labour of love that you can do (or not do) at your own pace.

No thanks.

We’re talking about indie publishers. If you plan to sell it, it’s a business proposition with all that that entails. From the moment you accept money for it, it’s not just a hobby or labour of love. If it’s just for your own personal use, then this conversation isn’t even relevant.

 

[Thomas Shey]

We’re talking about indie publishers. If you plan to sell it, it’s a business proposition with all that that entails. From the moment you accept money for it, it’s not just a hobby or labour of love. If it’s just for your own personal use, then this conversation isn’t even relevant.

It can still matter considerably whether it involves other people's money (Kickstarter) or just your own, however.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

I had to explicitly prompt for "a female demon with the lower body of a snake, the upper body of a woman and 6 arms" Just asking for "a Marilith" gave me a woman with blue skin, pointy horns and ears and spiky armor, so the model does appear to have a vague idea that a Marilith is a female demon, but doesn't know what one actually looks like.

Models have various level of familiarity with some concepts. This one might be difficult because models are trained to avoid showing three-armed or six-fingered humans, and it might be more difficult to deviate from the norm. An angel with two pairs of wings is often a struggle.

Here's NB result:

Totally ignoring the "with two pairs of wings" part of the "an angel with two pairs of wings" prompt...

(Some models do know mariliths without prompting details, but none of the local ones)

 

[cbwjm]

Totally ignoring the "with two pairs of wings" part of the "an angel with two pairs of wings" prompt...

What about asking for 4 wings instead? Just wondering how that would change things.