New Game of Death: Battle Royale of the GAWDS

Wow, I didn't even have to post anything myself. While I didn't like the idea of a tree doing all its falling and weight damage to one guy, the first 90 point attack is survivable. I found the idea of Martok dropping cheap 100 gp trees for 10 rounds on every character with a lower altitude far worse.

Just to reply to some earlier comments, originally, reaper planned to give me Martok's coordinates as I closed in. Then I could charge and grapple him and have very good chances. The text in my action about hunting Hawkeye was so I'd have a plausible reason to move into that area. That way, Maturak could beat up a wimpy wizard , and reaper wouldn't have his cohort killed. Later on, I planned to kill the kobold and take his stuff. I could identify the stones at my leisure, and, if there were 2 or more methods of escaping a forcecage, I could pass the crappy one to Jade or Therron. I'd probably gain alot of altitude before doing so, though.

Also, Maturak should be on the ground.

The pace is going really well. I was afraid that it wouldn't after the slowdown. Very happy. Now, let's get to Zalilad's turn so I can focus on how to kill him.

Victim said:

Wow, I didn't even have to post anything myself. While I didn't like the idea of a tree doing all its falling and weight damage to one guy, the first 90 point attack is survivable. I found the idea of Martok dropping cheap 100 gp trees for 10 rounds on every character with a lower altitude far worse.

Just to reply to some earlier comments, originally, reaper planned to give me Martok's coordinates as I closed in. Then I could charge and grapple him and have very good chances. The text in my action about hunting Hawkeye was so I'd have a plausible reason to move into that area. That way, Maturak could beat up a wimpy wizard , and reaper wouldn't have his cohort killed. Later on, I planned to kill the kobold and take his stuff. I could identify the stones at my leisure, and, if there were 2 or more methods of escaping a forcecage, I could pass the crappy one to Jade or Therron. I'd probably gain alot of altitude before doing so, though.

Also, Maturak should be on the ground.

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Yeah, I'll change maturak's status in a bit. And as I said earlier, part of the reason why the tree trick worked so well the first is because no one expected it. From now on, characters are going to be looking above their heads..

clockworkjoe said:

edit again to say that my quest ruling is also based on my dislike of the spell. I also allowed Jade to switch out any quest spells she had with other level 6 cleric spells.

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*forcibly gagging myself for the harmony of the game.*

However, as to the Tree of Death maneuver, 2 things:
1) It's not unexpected, or original. People have talked about dropping things on people for years, and it's always been problematic, at best. I'll stop there, though I've got more. (Now that the TreeofDeath (TM) attack has magically changed status to be "Expected", why would the mechanics change?)

2) Just to clarify:
There's currently nothing that's stopping your pal Berk from continuing to drop trees on people and getting a 10d6 attack.
Ranged touch attacks are pathetically easy, a DC 20 Listen check is incredibly hard to notice a tree the size of a building that's directly above you. Shouldn't it be a DC 10 Spot check? I doubt if someone would miss a tree so big it blocks out the sun.
(There is such a thing as peripheral vision) What time is it in game, anyway? Is there a sun overhead? And a DC 10 Reflex save is automatic, hence you just granted Berk a 10d6 ranged attack with 100 gp ammunition.

You made up ALL those rules.
It is not OK to _make up_ rules, clockwork.
Please stop doing so in an uneven manner.
Strictly by the rules (neglecting the spirit of the rules), green slime is exactly correct: there is no rule in the game that suggests that trees can form in mid-air.
I'm sure that Quall intended that his tree tokens would be the kind that are firmly rooted in the ground (there _are_ no other kinds of trees).

"It's Clockwork Joe, he's holding me back!"

"But Reapersaurus... He's the DM, what he says goes. You aren't in any kind of position to preach to him and whine all day about piddley little rules calls."

*sniffle* "Well I SHOULD be."



Awwwwwwwwwwwww

reaper... as a counter, there is no rule in the book that says that it cannot.

Dr Midnight said:

"It's Clockwork Joe, he's holding me back!"

"But Reapersaurus... He's the DM, what he says goes. You aren't in any kind of position to preach to him and whine all day about piddley little rules calls."

*sniffle* "Well I SHOULD be."

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Awwwwwwwwwwwww

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i APPLAUD you!

darn .
I blissfully thought that Dr. Midnight was staying quiet.

Nice to see his personal definitions of "DM", "preaching", "whining", and "piddly little rules calls" are still intact.

Also nice to have a player try to manipulate the situation and try to say it's ME that's causing it all, or that I'm the only person that sees a problem.

Sorry, Doc - you can't get away with that now - the shams been pointed out by OTHERS.

But I appreciate your sense of humor, all the same - that's a particularly humorous analogy - Bravo, as usual.

So Doc - don't hide behind innuendo and humor:
if you were the "DM", what would you have done different from clockwork to avoid the problem he caused with personal biases and house rulings?

reapersaurus said:

Nice to see his personal definitions of "DM", "preaching", "whining", and "piddly little rules calls" are still intact.

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Yeah, I'm an odd one. I have weird definitions for things that need putting quotations around. I'm "difficult" like that. If only I'd shut my damn mouth (metaphorically) and quit complaining every time you come in here to see how the game's going. "Shame" on "me".

Well, actually he is, because many of these rules calls seem unfair. DMs rules calls are supposed to be fair. Hence, an unfair rules call is no rules call, or something like that. And given that this GoD, unlike other D&D games, is entirely based on rules, I think reaper is fully justified in his complaining. If CJ arbitrarily declared that Norman Witherspoon started dancing and taking off his clothes, and then CDG'd himself with his rapier, or that no, sorry, rapiers are too powerful, and their new stats have only a 19-20 crit range, that you would be upset and whining.

However, I don't think dropping a tree is very original either. People have been talking about dropping stuff for years, to cause obscene amounts of damage.

The difference between Maturak's AMF and reaper's Shield Bash of Massive Bludgeoning is that each of those characters structured themselves around their ability to do it; Maturak has found a way to get non-magic flight, adamantine weapons, large size, etc. all non-magically, making him brutal inside his shell. It took skill and cleverness to do this, as well as severly limiting his effectiveness outside of his trick. reapersaurus, likewise, can murder anyone on a charge, but without charging, he's far less dangerous. His items, feats, and classes have been structured towards this one end.

Martok just bought a couple 100gp trees and started dropping them, neither building his character around it nor severely limiting his options. The only real surprise in such a maneuver, since every week or so someone talks about dropping lead balls from flight to kill dragons or something equally stupid, is that clockwork joe allowed such a cheesy maneuver.

Even as a Reflex half effect, the trees allow brutal damage at very low cost. If I join the next game of death, I expect everyone will start dropping those things on all non-rogues. Maybe everyone should just seal themselves off with walls of force to prevent "Death from Above."

Commenting on the Quest spell fiasco, sure, it may be disliked, but someone should anticipate the use of the broken spell, and rule that it will be ineffective, rather than allowing reaper to waste one of his precious few actions to cast it.

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