D&D General Dragon+ Content Going Away -- Whoops, It's Gone!

Oofta · Nov 17, 2022

Blue said:
I haven't heard that they plan on stopping selling physical books like they are now. That's non-online, non-microtransactions. Please can you provide some links to this change?

This is conjecture. Sure, they want to get money, and DnDBeyond is already doing this - for the people who are doing it online. But there hasn't been any indication that they are going to do away with the current, lucrative, physical sales, or turn them into alternate cover collectors editions only. And without that, there's still the exact same market there was before that is an alternative to what you are postulating.

They've explicitly stated that they'll still be selling physical books. A lot of people don't like using on-line resources or don't always have access.

Toxic_Rat · Nov 17, 2022

Ibrandul said:
Next up: $999 gets you four random issues of Dragon+

Four random pages of Dragon.

DEFCON 1 · Nov 17, 2022

If someone didn't actually download the Dragon+ material by now... did they REALLY want it? Seems silly to complain you can't access it anymore when you had however many years to get it all and just never bothered.

MNblockhead · Nov 17, 2022

DEFCON 1 said:
If someone didn't actually download the Dragon+ material by now... did they REALLY want it? Seems silly to complain you can't access it anymore when you had however many years to get it all and just never bothered.

I did, then I deleted the app to save space. I don't recall any way to export it to something like a PDF. So, I guess I didn't REALLY want it. But it would still be nice to have access to some of the content. Hopefully, they'll make it available in some format such as DMs guild or DnD Beyond.

darjr · Nov 17, 2022

Nikosandros said:
I'm aware of the problem with lack of re-publication rights when they made the Dragon Archive, but what were the problems with the AD&D 2e rules CD?

The SOP of TSR was to have contracts for stuff going into retail several months in advance and then borrow money based on that (I may have the exact details wrong). This practice locked them into certain actions, like shipping the first big batch of those CDs to a retail chain in bankruptcy and having them immediately liquidated in steeply discounted sales, ruining the market for them, no one else wanted to carry them.

So TSR couldn’t afford to make more.

Ben Riggs book Slaying the Dragon going into better detail.

Blue · Nov 17, 2022

Oofta said:
They've explicitly stated that they'll still be selling physical books. A lot of people don't like using on-line resources or don't always have access.

Thank you. I prefer physical books.

Actual, I prefer physical books bundled with cheap PDFs like some other game companies do it - PDFs of the books already have content, layout, art, editing and all the same paid for, so it's economical to bundle them cheaply - you're paying for the content+ once, and a small additional fee for multiple formats of the exact same thing. Unlike DnDBeyond where there's a lot of value-add in coding for character creation, making searchable, etc, etc - but that's value that I'm not looking to pay for personally. (And I'm glad is available for the peopel who do want it.)

Whizbang Dustyboots · Nov 17, 2022

Vincent55 said:
You're missing the point, the thing is before long only the online content will be the only way to get it from official sources and it will be like microtransactions are in online games.

Not inevitable and there's no actual evidence of this worst-case scenario. The books are insanely popular on Amazon, which is the easiest metric for a layperson to check, for instance.

GMforPowergamers · Nov 17, 2022

Vincent55 said:
You're missing the point, the thing is before long only the online content will be the only way to get it from official sources and it will be like microtransactions are in online games.

have we seen any evidence of this yet?

the microtransactions that I have seen hinted at are for minis and dice ont eh tVTT

darjr · Nov 17, 2022

Well. This sucks.

sucks.

Yesterday was a weird day. Seven years (41 issues) of my #DnD work were deleted from the internet. And these turned up in the mail. It's the circle of life

Whizbang Dustyboots · Nov 17, 2022

Writing for online sites, it's always a pleasant site when old stuff actually is archived when they move to a new platform or even a new Content Management System. More than once, I've spent days frantically copying stuff over from one system to another before the lights go out.

D&D General Dragon+ Content Going Away -- Whoops, It's Gone!

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Oofta

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